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Super-A ?...esp. Scotty or Banjo

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Pa. Pete

10-19-2006 16:23:33




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F/U to my "Super A Mystery" post-

You gentlemen saw the picture of the lost-washer-in-the-pan from my other post. I believe it is an axle-washer that had been dropped in the pan and never retrieved. My parts-book shows TWO washers, which 'sandwich' the inner bearing, however they have different part-numbers, and I assume are thus different. So I cannot tell which washer is the one I found.

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scotty

10-20-2006 05:05:11




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 Re: Super-A ?...esp. Scotty or Banjo in reply to Pa. Pete, 10-19-2006 16:23:33  
Mornin Pete, Keep in mind that the outer bearing is a press fit on the axle and that axle is not goin anywhere whether the washers are mixed up or not IMHO. The important thing is that you have a washer under that bolt that rides on the inner race of the inner bearing and the bolt is in place to hold the assembly together !


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Pa. Pete

10-19-2006 16:27:41




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 Re: Super-A ?...esp. Scotty or Banjo in reply to Pa. Pete, 10-19-2006 16:23:33  
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Here is a picture of what's under the inner cover of that right axle. I can see a washer against the bearing that has the same outer diameter as the lost washer. I don't know if there is a washer on the other side of the bearing. So it may or may not be properly re-assembled. As the axle must be "driven out", and as I have been driving it without problem, I'm not going to disassemble now.

The answer I need now:

My 'parts' book doesn't show the BOLT. I expected a castellated nut with a cotter pin, to adjust the bearing/axle looseness. Instead, I find a 'bolt'-head. Thus, I'm now assuming that the bearing adjustment must be done with that 'lugged'-spacer, and then the bolt torqued down.
Is this correct? I don't want to put any stress on the bearing from over-tightening, but I don't want to leave the bolt loose either, if it's supposed to be tight. And since that bolt is currently un-torqued, should I remove that tire to have a better 'feel' for the bearing adjustment?

Appreciate your time.

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daniel h.

10-19-2006 17:04:58




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 Re: Super-A ?...esp. Scotty or Banjo in reply to Pa. Pete, 10-19-2006 16:27:41  
The bolt is in the parts book, but its listed under the axle itself and not pictured. As to the adjustment, the rear bearings are NOT adjustable, you just tighten down the bolt. They are ball bearings not cone and roller bearing like front the front wheels. As to the spacer washer, I can't tell from the parts book which is which, and there appears to be a difference in the right and left sides, probably for the seed plate drive. I also see the axles are different R and L.

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Pa. Pete

10-19-2006 17:45:02




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 Re: Super-A ?...esp. Scotty or Banjo in reply to daniel h., 10-19-2006 17:04:58  
Thanks Dan. Now a lot of it makes sense.

There's supposed to be a washer UNDER the bearing. The service manual specifically warns to be sure it is in place on a reassembly. I'll bet my washer dropped into the pan when the axle was last out, and that is exactly where it belongs. I won't know until I remove the axle.

Dang.



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daniel h.

10-19-2006 17:36:42




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 Re: Super-A ?...esp. Scotty or Banjo in reply to daniel h., 10-19-2006 17:04:58  
OK, I look in my old parts book, the pictures are a little better. It appears there should be the bolt, a lock washer, a special flat washer(20) the "lugged spacer" (17) another spacer washer (16) the inner bearing(22), another spacer washer (23), the tube spacer (24), the outer bearing (25) and an oil seal (26) and felt (27) w/ retainer. The spacer washers all have different numbers, so they must have different thickness, and with pulling one apart, I'm not sure which is which.

Daniel

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Pa. Pete

10-19-2006 17:50:11




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 Re: Super-A ?...esp. Scotty or Banjo in reply to daniel h., 10-19-2006 17:36:42  
Thanks, buddy. You went to a lot of trouble.

There's no numbers on the loose washer/spacer, so who knows. Guess I'll take out the axle. I gotta know if the inner spacer is there, or not.



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banjo

10-19-2006 20:25:07




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 Re: Super-A ?...esp. Scotty or Banjo in reply to Pa. Pete, 10-19-2006 17:50:11  
sorry i wasn't around sooner. but i don't know if i could of helped.All i have is a shop manual and it shows a spacer on both sides of the bearing plus a washer under the capscrew(bolt).



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