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Farmall H starter?

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Dairy Farmer

10-17-2006 18:20:42




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I have a Farmall H that every once and a while you have to get off and rock the tractor in high gear to get it out of the bad spot in the flywheel. I say it's the fly wheel, but my neighbor claims it's the starter and NOT the fly wheel. and he also said if you put a different starter in, it would work just fine. Whos is right here? Me or my neighbor? T.I.A. DF




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glennster

10-18-2006 06:32:34




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 Re: Farmall H starter? in reply to Dairy Farmer, 10-17-2006 18:20:42  
if the ring gear on the flywheel is getting worn you can heat the gear with a torch to remove it and then flip it over if the back side of the gear is still good. run the torch around the ring gear to heat it evenly, dont get it cherry red, just warm it up, the gear will expand enough to slide off, i set the flywheel upside down so the gear will drop down. wire brush the flywheel to get the rust off, turn it up, reheat the gear and let it drop back into place. you may need to tap it a little, i use a brass hammer so you dont chip the gears.

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Shovelman

10-18-2006 06:02:19




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 Re: Farmall H starter? in reply to Dairy Farmer, 10-17-2006 18:20:42  
Most likely it is the ring gear. One of my H's did the same thing.

If you need a ring gear, I have a new one that I never used. Let me know if you are interested.

Scott



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Nebraska Cowman

10-18-2006 05:40:58




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 Re: Farmall H starter? in reply to Dairy Farmer, 10-17-2006 18:20:42  
Changing the drive on the starter might help temporarily but at the price of new parts I'd be tempted to fix it right cuz pretty soon you would be right back where you started and the new starter drive ruined. But yes, you have to split the tractor to change the ring gear on the flywheel. Not a big job realy.



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williamf

10-18-2006 01:52:51




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 Re: Farmall H starter? in reply to Dairy Farmer, 10-17-2006 18:20:42  
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It's almost certain that you're right. If it were the starter it wouldn't help to turn the engine a little. As Old said, it's really easy to pull the starter far enough to look in, just take the cable off and two bolts.
I've got the same problem with mine for several years now and have gotten so used to it that I might wait until retirement to get around to splitting the tractor. I've got a hand crank (used from Steel Wheel Ranch, they're cheap) and every time I shut the tractor down I hop off and give it a slight turn.
I tried dressing up the bad teeth with a Dremel but it didn't help. Wm

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old

10-17-2006 20:01:27




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 Re: Farmall H starter? in reply to Dairy Farmer, 10-17-2006 18:20:42  
Next time it does that, STOP and pull the starter off. Look at the ring gear on the flywheel and you will be able to see who is right. If the ring gear has biars on it or ruff teath you know its the ring gear if not then its the bendix on the starter



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wdrew24

10-17-2006 18:46:29




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 Re: Farmall H starter? in reply to Dairy Farmer, 10-17-2006 18:20:42  
I say you both could be right, and here's why. Internal combustion engines have a habit of shutting down at just about the same place over 65% of the time. Within a few degrees any how. I lost 100 bucks in a bet at a tractor show betting that my tractor wouldn't stop within 2 inches of the same spot 6 out of ten times. He was wrong though...it was eight out of ten. So the starter is indexing the flywheel ring gear in the same location 65% of the time putting a big wear pattern on the ring gear that can hang up a starter.
Likewise, I have seen a somewhat worn out starter shaft let the bendix gear go out to far and get hung up. Iv'e fixed this problem by putting a little bead of weld near the end of the shaft so it can't go all the way out there. Iv'e also seen a burr on the shaft hang up the bendix. With all the possibilities...I'd deal with the starter first....take nose cone off and see if there is a burr or is the shaft clean...if so, put the little bead of weld near the end...not too far up or it won't let the bendix go out far enough. If it still does it...then it is the ring gear. At least you wouldn't have split the tractor in half if it was just a starter. Hope this helps... Drew

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Jim Broughton

10-17-2006 18:38:32




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 Re: Farmall H starter? in reply to Dairy Farmer, 10-17-2006 18:20:42  
Well, for gosh sakes, take the starter off and have it checked...if that's your problem, it's an easy fix. While the starter is off, you can inspect the flywheel for buggered gears,broken tooth,etc. If that is your problem, then you gotta fix the flywheel !! Lots of luck and hope for the best ! Jim B.



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