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Bolts with hole in the head

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SuperA-Tx

10-16-2006 11:43:13




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On the Super A throttle linkage at the front of the tractor there is the spring. Right below that (two inches or so) there is a bolt with about a 7/64 hole in the head. To the left is another bolt with a little smaller hole in the head.

The bolts/heads are to the left of the neck for the radiator inlet that goes then to the block if you look at it from the front of the tractor.

Mine were all full of dirt but the bigger hole/bolt did have a little wire sticking out but didnt go anywhere, was only about an inch long.

What were the holes for?

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Hugh MacKay

10-16-2006 14:45:07




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 Re: Bolts with hole in the head in reply to SuperA-Tx, 10-16-2006 11:43:13  
Tx: Rusty has your answer, those bolts had wires with a lead seal through them when tractor was new. It was designed so manufacturer knew if there was any tampering with engine rpm while tractor was under warrenty.

I remember my dad using them to deter a wrench and screwdriver happy employee. This guy had worked next door, on a farm where owner was away a lot. Almost weekly we'd see the owner towing him on tractor off to the repair shop. About 10 am soon as shop got it running right, he'd drive back past on tractor. He even stopped one day and asked my dad for a wrench on his way home. He said, " Them guys down at Bentley's haven't got this set right."

After the poor old guy couldn't afford to farm anymore, our friend came to my dad looking for a job. Dad gave him a job but told him if he ever caught him tampering with timing, governor or carburator on a tractor, he'd wack him on the fingers with a hammer.

Some folks just shouldn't be allowed to have tools.

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SuperA-Tx

10-16-2006 15:44:53




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 Re: Bolts with hole in the head in reply to Hugh MacKay, 10-16-2006 14:45:07  
Thanks Hugh

I kind of figured Rusy was on the right track.

Hate having holes in the head and you dont know what they are for.

I am on the last parts of sand blasting. Welder called today and my grill and radiator shroud is ready.

One last major thing I have been putting off is replacing the manifold. Sprayed it several times with WD40 over the last two weeks and hopeing it comes loose easy.

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El Toro

10-17-2006 05:43:31




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 Re: Bolts with hole in the head in reply to SuperA-Tx, 10-16-2006 15:44:53  
You need to heat the bolts or nuts to remove your manifold. Use an acetylene/oxygen torch. Hal



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SuperA-Tx

10-17-2006 06:02:19




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 Re: Bolts with hole in the head in reply to El Toro, 10-17-2006 05:43:31  
Been reading all about heating the bolts and tapping them with a hammer, etc. Also been reading where they are hard to get off and people breaking the bolts and having to weld nuts on them to get them off. Thats why I been putting it off.

Only torch I have is a small hand held one but I think that will work. If not then I will have to call for backup.

The tractor worked fine before I started working on it and was stored in a shed so I dont think the bolts are rusted up.

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El Toro

10-17-2006 07:35:00




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 Re: Bolts with hole in the head in reply to SuperA-Tx, 10-17-2006 06:02:19  
I would heat them red hot. WD-40 won't help.
If they're studs you can use a pair of vise grips
for removing them after they are heated. Once you get them out you should run a tap through the threads. I would put anti-seize compound on the threads of new ones. Hal
PS: I saw all that flooding in TX on the Weather Channel. We had 21 inches of rain in June. A lot of crops were ruined. I'm sure glad I live on a hill. I did lose 3 or 4 tomato plants. I had mine up on heavy wire cages and I think that's what saved the majority of them. Never had such tall potato vines either. I cleaned off the garden on Saturday and plowed under the residue. I broadcasted barley on it yesterday
and tilled it under. I picked a 7 gallon bucket full of green tomatoes too.

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SuperA-Tx

10-17-2006 11:05:59




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 Re: Bolts with hole in the head in reply to El Toro, 10-17-2006 07:35:00  
They are studs. I wont need to remove them if the nuts come off.

We didnt have any flooding here. I live 50 miles East of Dallas and we are way behind in rain and could use a flood. Lakes around here are about 20 feet low and everyone is under water restrictions. I have a nursery and our two small lakes are getting real low.

Out of the flooding you heard abut we got 1 1/2 inches but we need six or seven to do any good.

Tomatoes didnt do good here this year because of the drought. Fire ants and nut grass/sedge is doing great tho.

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El Toro

10-18-2006 04:43:25




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 Re: Bolts with hole in the head in reply to SuperA-Tx, 10-17-2006 11:05:59  
We had that drought here in 1999 and in 2002.
In 1999 it didn't rain all summer and it was hot as blazes. I was working on a bridge test then.
All the creeks, wells and ponds were drying up.
We were outside and drank a lot of water and the thing that I noticed that you never had many bathroom calls. It must have been all the sweating we did. In September of 1999 there was a storm called Floyd that came up from the South
and it poured rain. I went into work that morning and you could hardly see the road and the
roadways were flooding in some areas. They sent us home around 10 am. I had called my wife and she said the electric was off. When I got home I hooked up the generator so we had power for the sump pump as it was being bailed out by my wife. The neighbors that didn't have a generator had everything lost in their basements do to the power outage. I would need to look at the 1999 calendar to see how much rain we got from that storm, but their rain deficit was gone. Hal

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Nat 2

10-16-2006 12:38:12




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 Re: Bolts with hole in the head in reply to SuperA-Tx, 10-16-2006 11:43:13  
If the hole is drilled through sideways from flat to flat on the bolt head, then it's for safety wire.



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SuperA-Tx

10-16-2006 12:50:46




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 Re: Bolts with hole in the head in reply to Nat 2, 10-16-2006 12:38:12  
They are hex head bolts and drilled thru the sides of the head.

Dont think its for a safety wire tho. But then again I wouldnt be asking the question if I knew what they were for.



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RustyFarmall

10-16-2006 13:21:57




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 Re: Bolts with hole in the head in reply to SuperA-Tx, 10-16-2006 12:50:46  
The bolts that hold the cover plate onto the governor on a couple of my Hs have holes of that nature. Those bolts, I think, were part of a governor overhaul package from years ago. When the mechanic finished a rebuild, he would then run a small multi-strand wire through all of those holes, and then crimp the ends of the wire together with a sort of seal made of lead. This was so the mechanic would know if his work had been tampered with. I've seen the same thing on carburetors, but not as often.

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Bill in oh

10-16-2006 12:23:24




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 Re: Bolts with hole in the head Allan in NE in reply to SuperA-Tx, 10-16-2006 11:43:13  
Allan that was a good one now i do'nt have the heart to tell him what they are. Send some more pictures of the 1066 ?don't worry so much of the tractor i would like to see a little back ground i have four of the tractors. Thanks BILL



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Allan In NE

10-16-2006 13:07:47




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 Re: Bolts with hole in the head Allan in NE in reply to Bill in oh, 10-16-2006 12:23:24  
That' why I said I didn't know. :>(

Never seen anything smaller than an H. Sure have seen the head bolt heaters tho. :>)

Allan



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Bill in oh

10-16-2006 14:01:10




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 Re: Bolts with hole in the head Allan in NE in reply to Allan In NE, 10-16-2006 13:07:47  
Allan there is no doubt you are a good natured person.Any one that raise cattle and run the red tracors? I was going to tell him but you took it away from me. Darn you just can't get em all thanks again. maybe i'll get the next? Bill



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Allan In NE

10-16-2006 11:48:13




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 Re: Bolts with hole in the head in reply to SuperA-Tx, 10-16-2006 11:43:13  
Dunno fer sure on your tractor,

However, the earliest block heaters were what they called "Head bolt Heaters". Just a bolt with an electrical heater built into it; hence the name.

'Spose that is what you're dealin' with?

Allan



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