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H Carb Rebuild Observations

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neblinc

09-18-2006 07:53:37




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Well I tore into the carb this weekend and installed the rebuild kit.
I guess I was disapointed that some of the items were not included in the kit for $90.
For example a new metering nozzle, throttle plate, air bleed & the fuel adjusting screw seat. I am not sure how that seat would come out of the carb, but if they send the needle screw, why not a new seat?

Overall it was a pretty straight forward process.
I made sure I had a diagram next to me and matched up the old parts to the new and marked them on the copy of the carb diagram page I made.

Took my time and kept track of where things went as I took them off. The one gotcha was the spring & ball that came with my kit, I did not see those pieces when I took mine apart and thought they had "sprung" out of there when I took it apart. So I fought for over an hour trying to get those pieces in! Ended up there was no way thay they were going in there. So maybe the choke shaft had been replaced? Anyway overall not a bad job to attempt for a beginner, but I don't think the kit is worth $90 when you can get an aftermarket in the $30 range.
I was planning on doing a step by step picture takedown but the wife had the camera, so maybe my next one I will do that.

Randy

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neblinc

09-18-2006 09:26:13




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 Re: H Carb Rebuild Observations in reply to neblinc, 09-18-2006 07:53:37  
It runs great now! barely touch the starter and it pops right off. It would taks a few more cranks before, and I had to fiddle with the choke just right.

As far as the kit, I am buy no means qualified to judge on these kits, I am going on what people that do this stuff all the time like RustyFarmall & others have said that the parts fit better etc.

I bought it because I wanted to do it right with genuine parts.

I just think that for the money, more parts should be supplied.

What I should have done was buy the aftermarket kit from my local TSC store and compared them side by side on what a guy really gets for the money.

I have no idea what part of my kit if any made the difference in it running better, maybe some of the tubes or passages were just clogged.
I let the carb body and parts soak for a few hours in the carb cleaner solution also.

Randy

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RustyFarmall

09-18-2006 11:43:58




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 Re: H Carb Rebuild Observations in reply to neblinc, 09-18-2006 09:26:13  
I will agree that the expensive kit is lacking a few of the parts that are included in the cheaper kits, but the IH kit includes a few parts that the cheap kits don"t have. The cheap kits usually do not include a new packing gland, which I think is critical. The cheap kit does include a new main metering stem, but very rarely is it necessary. The gaskets in the IH kit are of much higher quality, and they actually fit, something the cheap kits cannot claim. The instruction sheet included in the IH kit is very informative and precise, and even includes a parts list as well as an exploded view of the carb. The instruction sheet included in the cheap kits is pretty much worthless, does not include a parts list or an exploded diagram, and sometimes the instruction sheet is for a totally different carburetor. I might also add that those extra parts included in the cheap kit are sometimes actually in the kit, more often they are not, and the cheap kit might also be missing one or more critical gaskets. I will continue to recommend the Case-IH kit. I can buy the cheap kits wholesale, and resell them at full retail, but the quality is so poor that I will not do that.

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Andy Martin

09-18-2006 13:10:36




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 Re: H Carb Rebuild Observations in reply to RustyFarmall, 09-18-2006 11:43:58  
I don't usually buy kits, and have only bought the cheap ones, but am needing the little vent tube which screws into the bottom casting and protrudes into the top casting on an M.

Do you know if the IH kit includes this item? (If I described it properly)



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RustyFarmall

09-18-2006 13:57:05




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 Re: H Carb Rebuild Observations in reply to Andy Martin, 09-18-2006 13:10:36  
You are describing the idle metering jet. It is easily broken off when disassembling a carburetor unless you know before hand that it is there (nothing implied here).That particular part is included in the complete kit from Tisco, but is not included in the Case-IH kit, although I think it is available separately.



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Andy Martin

09-19-2006 07:34:39




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 Re: H Carb Rebuild Observations in reply to RustyFarmall, 09-18-2006 13:57:05  
Thanks! I had a new tractor I could never get to run right, and did not notice (or care) the piece was broken off the first time I took it apart. I finally made an easy out to get it out and robbed one from a junker but I really like to keep all my tractors complete.

I'll try a TISCO kit.

As far as implications go, I break enough stuff through stupidity on my own, this was just not one of them.

On the other hand, there are lots of things which just cannot be disassembled without breaking. My goal is to not disassemble what does not need to come apart and then not be broken up about it if I have to cut it apart.

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RustyFarmall

09-19-2006 07:53:17




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 Re: H Carb Rebuild Observations in reply to Andy Martin, 09-19-2006 07:34:39  
Andy, I'll have to agree that some stuff just won't come apart without something breaking, but here is a little trick I have learned with carburetors. One of those small propane torches can be the best friend you ever had when working on castiron carburetors. If it won't come apart, heat it up good with the torch, squirt some oil on it, and go have a cup of coffee. This trick is especially useful when trying to remove the venturi without doing any damage.

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Andy Martin

09-19-2006 08:19:27




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 Re: H Carb Rebuild Observations in reply to RustyFarmall, 09-19-2006 07:53:17  
Thanks for the advice.

I've never used heat on carburetors. I'll try that. I take great pride on getting stuff apart if it will come apart, without damaging the original parts, and I usually do pretty good. It still gripes me when I fail. I hate to twist off dot head bolts, even when they are corroded and I replace them, they still go in my pile to be saved.

The venturi is an interesting comment. I guess I have never had trouble getting them out, in fact I have had several fall to the ground in the field while I am trying to clean out the carburetor without any cleaner. About all you can do is flush with gasoline and put it back together. Now that I think about it the carburetor is absorbing heat from the manifold while you're trying to work on it on the tractor. That may be why they seem to fall out half way through the job.

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Mike CA

09-18-2006 08:58:08




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 Re: H Carb Rebuild Observations in reply to neblinc, 09-18-2006 07:53:37  
How does it run? I was planning on doing the rebuild with the expensive kit. But it sounds like you aren't a fan of the expensive kit.



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Mike CA

09-18-2006 08:58:01




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 Re: H Carb Rebuild Observations in reply to neblinc, 09-18-2006 07:53:37  
How does it run? I was planning on doing the rebuild with the expensive kit. But it sounds like you aren't a fan of the expensive kit.



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