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McCormick 45 square baler

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Ben Ford

09-07-2006 21:09:18




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I recently bought this old baler and went to my hay field today with it. It makes a bale just fine. Problem is I should have studied the twine route into the tie area. As the old twine was rotted and broke right off the bat.

Any info that you can give me on how to route the twine will be appreciated. Is there a sketch anywhere out there?




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mn.Chuck

09-11-2006 14:16:00




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 Re: McCormick 45 square baler in reply to Ben Ford, 09-07-2006 21:09:18  
I have a serviceman's guide to the 45 baler. It is
labeled Blue Ribbon Service Training Course dated
4/l/50 and is a 48 page highly detailed book to
service the 45 baler with color cover and back.
$ 22 if it will help you in the future. Chuck



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Fromjb2

09-08-2006 18:05:32




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 Re: McCormick 45 square baler in reply to Ben Ford, 09-07-2006 21:09:18  
Hi Ben, tie the splicing knot like Janicholson says and we used to some grease to the knot and that would prevent it from sticking in the twine tension mechanism.

Good luck with the 45, I like many others rode
the twine box tying the missed knots.

JB2



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Janicholson

09-08-2006 13:29:57




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 Re: Twine knot basic in reply to Ben Ford, 09-07-2006 21:09:18  
You may know (others not) Twine knot:
To make a twine splice that will (usually) pass through a knotter without grief, try this.

With two clean square cut ends of the twine (one the end of the old ball, and the other the new ball) make a normal first knot like tying your shoes. Then take the ends and fuzz them up by seperating the strands and rolling them until they are frayed back about an inch and a quarter. Then push the two ends together meshing the strands so that they overlap each other one full inch, and have integrated (kinda like folding your fingers together). Rolling the resulting splice between your fingers to squish it small is the next step. Last is to itghten up the first knot, while holding the splice together, until a good portion of the splice is inside the first knot. Then pull the knot tight. This knot is not much bigger than the twine, and unless it happens to get into the knotter, it will pass through the system. It is as strong as the twine, and works wonders. Practice on some extra twine while relaxing (it kinda looks like macreme! JimN

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Haas

09-08-2006 09:45:04




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 Re: McCormick 45 square baler in reply to Ben Ford, 09-07-2006 21:09:18  
I have some various new old stock parts for the No. 45 baler. Send me an E mail if you have an interest. I can send you a list. I also have a parts catalog.



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Karl Hamson

09-08-2006 09:16:59




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 Re: McCormick 45 square baler in reply to Ben Ford, 09-07-2006 21:09:18  
If the twine threading is similar to a 46 I can photocopy the relevant pages of the manual and fax them to you if you have a fax number I could send them to. Karl



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Ben Ford

09-08-2006 09:31:34




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 Re: McCormick 45 square baler in reply to Karl Hamson, 09-08-2006 09:16:59  
I have the twine thru the needle and need to know it"s entry into the knotter. That is the area that I am lost on.

fax #
1 816 680 3969



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Ron-MO

09-08-2006 11:48:06




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 Re: McCormick 45 square baler in reply to Ben Ford, 09-08-2006 09:31:34  
Ben; simply pull the twine through the needle and tie it off. When the knotter trips it will thread the knotters and you should be good to go. I do the same with my current baler which is a Ford 532. Actually I believe that is what the book says to do.



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Ron-MO

09-08-2006 06:52:16




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 Re: McCormick 45 square baler in reply to Ben Ford, 09-07-2006 21:09:18  
Like teddy52food said - it has been probably 30 years since I baled with a 45, but if memory serves me correctly it is not difficult to find the rought to the needles then jus tie it off to one of the guards below or a point on the frame and trip the knotters. Good luck with the old #45. My experience is that they are very tempermental. I spent many hours 'riding' the twine box on that one with dad driving the tractor and me tying the loose knots. But we baled thousands of bales that way over the course of about 10 years. We used to think that we simply did not know how to set it up properly, but since visiting this board I have learned that that was the 'nature of the beast'. I hope I have not discouraged you on it and you have good luck with it.

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teddy52food

09-08-2006 10:12:56




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 Re: McCormick 45 square baler in reply to Ron-MO, 09-08-2006 06:52:16  
I too spent many hours riding the twine box tying loose bales in my youth.



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teddy52food

09-08-2006 05:55:54




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 Re: McCormick 45 square baler in reply to Ben Ford, 09-07-2006 21:09:18  
It has been many years since I used a 45 balor. If you can figure the route from the twine box to the needle, I remember using a wire with a hook on one end to pull it through the needle. Then tie it to the rear somehow and trip the knotter and it should bring it up to the knotters. There is a small roller on the tip of the needle.The twine goes from bottom to top of the roller. Somewhere between the box and the needle is a tention device the twine passes through. Hope this helps.

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