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Mr. Haney pulls a new trick

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williamf

09-05-2006 05:56:41




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Yesterday the dog and I were using the H to carry a length of pipe up to the top of Collin's Mount. There's a spring up there that we cleaned out for a watering hole and it's running across the road. We got to an unusually steep stretch of road - not dangerously steep, but enough to shift down fron 4th to 2nd. Almost to the top it's as if the gas was cut off. Backed the trailer full of dog and pipe 50 yards or so, steadily appreciating how much better the brakes work when they're properly adjusted.
At the bottom of the hill I parked and tried to restart - first heart, then motor. It gave about two pops and then the normal H roar of power. I putit in 1st, opened the throttle a little more than I normally would and tried again. Like nothing had ever happened, but a bit of trust is gone. To turn this into a question: the gas tank was near full and has no visible crud. The sediment bowl has looked clean since I emptied it when I first got the tractor, several years ago. The carb is a rebuilt that came with the tractor, I installed not long after because the old one leaked so badly; it's never given any trouble. I've already started to settle into my usual "it'll never happen again" mode of denial, but if anybody has a theory that I could fall back on I'd feel better. Thanks, Wm

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Matt Page

09-05-2006 07:44:59




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 Re: Mr. Haney pulls a new trick in reply to williamf, 09-05-2006 05:56:41  
Had the bullet-proof old 100 do that this weekend. Was a pipe wrench in the battery box that shifted and shorted out the coil wire.



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williamf

09-05-2006 06:36:04




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 Re: Mr. Haney pulls a new trick in reply to williamf, 09-05-2006 05:56:41  
Y'all are quick - and lean toward the same ideas as I. I hadn't considered mechanical malevolence, though. He's always been a sweet old tractor.
Wm



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Andy Martin

09-05-2006 06:09:59




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 Re: Mr. Haney pulls a new trick in reply to williamf, 09-05-2006 05:56:41  
You could have had the float stick as you approached the top and fuel consumption diminished the float will rise a little. If the float sticks the fuel level may get too high and cause the float to pop loose and then stick in the closed position. Did you try the choke as it was dying?

Or, you may have something floating around in the fuel tank plugged the opening. i've had this happen and it is hard to find.

Or you may have trash in the shutoff valve which limits fuel flow and you were using maximum fuel in second gear and starved the engine. In first gear, with the same load, you will not use as much fuel in gallons per minute. I've had this happen and it is hard to find.

Or, it may be the coil going bad. Or the condenser.

Or, maybe, Mr. Haney is smarter than you and just wanted to have a little fun at your expense.

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Janicholson

09-05-2006 06:08:53




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 Re: Mr. Haney pulls a new trick in reply to williamf, 09-05-2006 05:56:41  
Did you try to restart on the hill, or just at the bottom? your description fits both an electrical connection issue, with the tugging of the gravity on the hill allowing a poor connection to "open up", or, as you are leaning toward, a flake of junk passing through. I would check the wiring for good terminal cleanliness, and see if it happens again. Hopefully where analysis can take place. JimN

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Harley

09-05-2006 06:29:42




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 Re: Mr. Haney pulls a new trick in reply to Janicholson, 09-05-2006 06:08:53  
And then of course it might just be the nature of the beast, just letting you know who's boss. I even had an M die out on me with a full tank of gas and I knew it was full cause I took the cap off and looked. Then it would run good for about 3 minutes. Then die. Checked the gas again and it would run for 3 and die. Now wait a minute. If the tank is full, there's not much air up there to let the fuel flow out the bottom. Looked at the cap. One of those *&(%&&$^( non vented caps. Threw it just as far down into the timber as I could. Went to the shop, got the new tall cap, wala problem solved. Hope your fix is as easy. Harley

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