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Living with a Baler

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Michael Soldan

08-31-2006 17:50:44




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Welp, I got the Massey#10 out to do the second cut, started down a row and the first bale didn't tie...neither did the next twenty! Neighbours stopped in and had a look, offered some opinions, finally I said I would wait 'til the son-in-law got home from work. I worked in the barn for an hour or so, then decided I would have another look. I stood there studying the knotters for about 10 minutes and I noticed the little arm that rides the knotter was sitting out about a half inch from where it should be, poked with my finger and it snapped back into place..HMMMM..neighbours came in again and we decided to clean and oil everything associated with this arm and pivot, started the baler and did 240 bales with one miss...now go figure, the baler is always inside but it was definitely rust that kept it from functioning. I was ready to get the round baler out and get 'er done. I did want small squares to put up in the mow. On a freezing snowy blowing day I find it nicer to throw 8 or 10 small squares down that get the tractor out to get a big round out. This gives me around a thousand small squares the rest is rounds..anyway when a baler works right its a charm, when it doesn't it is the most frustrating situation..Oh yeah and I had just put a new tire on it($93) and 15 teeth @$4.09 ea..so I was expecting it to work..alls well that ends well....*^%&!% Baler!

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Beck

09-01-2006 08:09:14




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 Re: Living with a Baler in reply to Michael Soldan, 08-31-2006 17:50:44  
Michael,
Just imagine what a square baler is like if it sits outside all year without the knotters being covered.
I have a neighbor that does not have any storage, every year its a challenge to get the baler to tie again.



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Jim Becker

09-01-2006 07:37:37




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 Re: Living with a Baler in reply to Michael Soldan, 08-31-2006 17:50:44  
"Oh yeah and I had just put a new tire on it($93) and 15 teeth @$4.09 ea..so I was expecting it to work."

That's your problem, right there. Old farm machines are just like old cars. NEVER put a new part on. If you do, something nearby will get jealous and quit working!



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Janicholson

09-01-2006 06:48:44




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 Re: Living with a Baler in reply to Michael Soldan, 08-31-2006 17:50:44  
We had an old IH with a Wisconsin that heat soaked so badly that if shut off it required a rope wound around the pulley, and a pickup truck to spin it into life. We tried to bale all day with shifts for lunch. Whhewww! JimN



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rumplestiltskin

09-01-2006 09:26:16




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 Re: Living with a Baler in reply to Janicholson, 09-01-2006 06:48:44  

Oh, yeah.

My uncle's baler had a hand-crank-to-start (with a six-inch crank, if that) Wisconsin engine. Every now and then it would quit -- usually a carb needle/crud issue. I learned all sorts of words watching him crank that thing!

Mark W. in MI



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Hugh MacKay

09-01-2006 09:40:25




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 Re: Living with a Baler in reply to rumplestiltskin, 09-01-2006 09:26:16  
The words came very easy, especially for me. One day I was puttng the spark plug wire back on plug of Wisconsin, Dad turned the engine over. If he had any doubt he quickly got his answer. I guess he wasn't satisfied we had spark. I've had shocks from electric fences, Farmall plugs, car and truck plugs, but nothing I've seen can jolt you like a Wisconsin.



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Hugh MacKay

09-01-2006 02:07:58




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 Re: Living with a Baler in reply to Michael Soldan, 08-31-2006 17:50:44  
Michael: You didn't mention any rain. I always found when one had a couple of hours or less baling to do, and the baler acted up, it always rained by the time you had it working.

One difference maybe, you have a decent baler to begin with, I'm thinking back to the days when we had a McCormick 45 with Wisconsin engine. I can remember a number of times my dad threatened to back that one over a cliff. In those day we didn't have a round baler, but the old hayloader was still around, and indeed did get used on a number of ocasions.

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Michael Soldan

09-01-2006 05:11:56




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 Re: Living with a Baler in reply to Hugh MacKay, 09-01-2006 02:07:58  
Hugh, I'm sure glad I got a round baler back up instead of a hayloader!!!I remember those days, I wasn't old enough to help but I did ride the wagon and my job was to pull the rope back up to the barn after the horses pulled the bundle up and into the hay mow, they always seemed to tangle the rope if you didn't pull it back up the barn hill, and it had to come up so the next bundle could be hooked...thank goodness for balers

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Hugh MacKay

09-01-2006 08:51:22




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 Re: Living with a Baler in reply to Michael Soldan, 09-01-2006 05:11:56  
Michael: I remember the hayloader very well, first haying job I ever had was driving W4 on the hayloader. My grand father was getting a bit rough on the clutch as he aged. At about 6-7 dad plunked me in seat of W4, said, " You've go a job as long as the guys on the load don't complain." That would have been 48 or 49. Dad's word didn't hold true, we got a new H in the spring of 51 and by that time I had graduated to one of the guys on the load, and my younger brother had the tractor driving job. That was the last year for the hayloader. My brother on tractor, two of us on the load, a guy hauling wagons to and from the barn. Dad in the haymow, a guy setting the pitching fork on wagon and another younger brother driving Farmall Cub pulling the cable.

But you know something, the very next year we got the 45 engine drive baler, baled all the hay unto wagons, and with the same crew, we had a hard job keeping up to the old loose hay production in tons per day. We had topped the 30 load mark several times with loose hay. 7' x 18' wagons and that guy I worked with on the load could build a load of loose hay from the loader, 12' wide. Dad used to run on him a bit, asking if he couldn't get a bit more on the wagon. He was just a little man about 5'6", maybe 140#, but man could he pitch a fork full of hay. He burried me at front of wagon many times. My job was tramping hay, and you knew if the last fork full went to left of wagon the next one was going right, thus you best keep on the move.

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Jossette

08-31-2006 19:14:13




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 Re: Living with a Baler in reply to Michael Soldan, 08-31-2006 17:50:44  
sounds like me once in a while. If momma's not happy, Ain't nobody happy...including the tractor and all implements. The good ole #10 is a good baler. Only have 1 mile of road ditch left and I can put mine away for the winter.



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Hayfarmer

08-31-2006 18:36:15




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 Re: Living with a Baler in reply to Michael Soldan, 08-31-2006 17:50:44  
My dad was a JD mechanic for 28 years. He always said to check the simple things first. I had experience on a 3 tie baler where the center string would occasionally break, adjusted knotter with no help. It was a bolt in the bottom rail that was too long and would occasionally catch the twine. Another time it kept missing bales, I couldn't find anything wrong with knotter though I lifted it up to look. Turned out to be the tensioner on the twine box had popped up and was not putting proper tension on. The easy things always get ya.

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