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Is anyone changing their own tires?

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CharleyFarmall

08-29-2006 07:02:29




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When you are buying tires ( from Millers for Example) are you changing your own? I haven't changed a tire in 20 years and back then i had access to equipment. I've done a few tires by hand too and it is too much work it seems - especially when I look at the rears. Is it easier just to buy them a the Coop and have them do it? My Super A and 300U both need tires (ugh $$$)




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Skyhawk Greg

08-30-2006 13:28:40




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 Re: Is anyone changing their own tires? in reply to CharleyFarmall, 08-29-2006 07:02:29  
CF - I just changed the rear tires on my H last week. No big deal. I used the front bucket of my backhoe to initially break the beads. Without something similar, I would not have tackled the project, as these tires seem to have been on for longer than I have been alive. After the beads were broken, make sure you slide the beads to the center of the rim, opposite the valve stem, and use two smooth tire removal tools. Mine were 14" long, and the project went smoothly. No soap suds were needed for either removing, or installing. If lubrication were needed, I probably would have used talcum powder, as this was a trick I learned while racing motorcycles.

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bjr

08-29-2006 13:10:38




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 Tire Talk, I'm extra cheap, also in reply to CharleyFarmall, 08-29-2006 07:02:29  
I had some bad experiences with the "Sudden Service" guys tire store here in town. Now, I do all my own now. I've bought tires online from places like Nebraska Tire, good folks there. Yes there is freight involved but I still come out ahead. Things are done when I need them done and with me that's a biggy. I invested in tire bead slid hammer; tire spoons; bead cheata bead sealer air tank; some patchs for tubes (no tubeless tractor tires here)and the mandatory Murphy's tire and tube compound (five gal. bucket of the stuff)air powered buffer with appropriate wheel. I also got two Daughters that I seem to have keep tires on for. I use a static balancer to do the balancing, Harbor Freight Tools. I bought a Harbor freight tire post type machine for $40 and just love it for the small passenger tires. I had a rim clamp professional machine and I didn't like it and sold it. I'm not a pro and mount dismount yet but I'm practicing on it. bjr

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randy hall

08-29-2006 12:21:10




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 Re: Is anyone changing their own tires? in reply to CharleyFarmall, 08-29-2006 07:02:29  
we have always changed all of our own tires and a few for other people. the hardest ones i have ever did were our 28Lx26 combine tires.



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Bill46

08-29-2006 10:31:34




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 Re: Is anyone changing their own tires? in reply to CharleyFarmall, 08-29-2006 07:02:29  
I have always changed my own. Never really thought about having someone else do it.
I found a tool in Gemplers catalog that makes breaking them down a lot easier...expensive...but easier.
I work behind a desk...so I need the excerise anyway...as long as it does not get too hot.
I sometimes wait until it cools off to do it.
That little tool does a job on ATV and lawn tractor tires too...best tool I have bought for awhile. Used it just last weekend to put two new tires on a green 820D.

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iowa_tire_guy

08-29-2006 10:20:08




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 Re: Is anyone changing their own tires? in reply to CharleyFarmall, 08-29-2006 07:02:29  
Is it okay for me to join in on this discussion? Since the tractor tire changing industry doesn't seem to attract the best and the brightest it would be safe to say that it is not rocket science. But it is like any trade that if you have the right tools and know how to use them the job is faster and easier. I would say that Allen in NE probably has the best idea for what we charge for the actually dismount and mount really isn't that much compared to the blood, sweat and tears of doing it yourself without the tools. Especially if rust is a factor. Some thoughts from this side of the job.

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Shaggy

08-29-2006 09:59:35




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 Re: Is anyone changing their own tires? in reply to CharleyFarmall, 08-29-2006 07:02:29  
If the tires have been on the rims a while I always use a bottle jack under the hitch if the truck to break the bead. Then a few pry bars and a few helpful words and away we go!



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f20inmi

08-29-2006 09:56:37




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 Re: Is anyone changing their own tires? in reply to CharleyFarmall, 08-29-2006 07:02:29  
I was having one heck of time breaking beads on a farmall A. Tried the sledge and was left with a dented rim. Then the light bulb came on. I took a 2x8 and used it for a ramp. I laid the wheel/tire on the ground, set one end of the ramp near the rim and then I had the better half drive up the ramp with the truck slowly. Worked like champ. Turned a really painful job into an easy 5 minute job. Haven't went the other direction yet to mount the tires.

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Jaywalt

08-29-2006 09:21:01




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 Re: Is anyone changing their own tires? in reply to CharleyFarmall, 08-29-2006 07:02:29  
I would have concerns with putting force, ie a crowbar/tire iron on the lip of my rims. The edge of the rim doesnt seem very substantial and I would fear bending them...



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WyoDave

08-29-2006 08:56:25




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 Re: Is anyone changing their own tires? in reply to CharleyFarmall, 08-29-2006 07:02:29  
I change my own smaller tires on the old play tractors at my conveinence, but if I show up at the field with a flat one on a big guy I call the pros. They're faster, and I can get some other work done while they're fixing the tire. David



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Wild Bill

08-29-2006 08:52:08




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 Re: Is anyone changing their own tires? in reply to CharleyFarmall, 08-29-2006 07:02:29  
I change my own tires on anything that has them. I have never understood people complaining about what a hard job it is. It simply is not difficult to do. You need lots of soap to lube things up, and you need to get yourself a set of tools to do it with, start off with a set of spoons ($20 cheap) and go from there as money allows.



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Hendrik

08-29-2006 08:50:42




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 Re: Is anyone changing their own tires? in reply to CharleyFarmall, 08-29-2006 07:02:29  
Mounted all 4 for my Super A, just using two tyre irons and some soapy water.
Taking the old ones off can be a real pain though...



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P Backus

08-29-2006 08:42:00




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 Re: Is anyone changing their own tires? in reply to CharleyFarmall, 08-29-2006 07:02:29  
Hey, I"ve got a deal for you! I"ll buy tires for both of your tractors if you buy tires for just one of mine! ($3700 for 4 tires on my Magnum)
Paul



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Brian Schmidt

08-29-2006 08:23:39




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 Re: Is anyone changing their own tires? in reply to CharleyFarmall, 08-29-2006 07:02:29  
I change all my own tractor tires unless I buy them from the COOP where they mount them for free. I even buy my car tires online and change them at home. I take them in for balance though. Call me cheap, but I hate waiting around for things to get done.



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Allan In NE

08-29-2006 08:03:26




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 Re: Is anyone changing their own tires? in reply to CharleyFarmall, 08-29-2006 07:02:29  
Used to have the tire boys make a service call, but here lately, I've just been loading the tractor on the trailer and takin' it in to them.

Allan



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old

08-29-2006 07:55:47




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 Re: Is anyone changing their own tires? in reply to CharleyFarmall, 08-29-2006 07:02:29  
I do most of my own tractor tires. But I also did it for a liveing for awhile so I know how to do it and I have the tools to do it also. Its a lot of work and can be a real pain with out the right tools. If you where to buy the right tools you could spend up to $100 and more if you get the fancy ones

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Jim Allen

08-29-2006 07:50:10




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 Re: Is anyone changing their own tires? in reply to CharleyFarmall, 08-29-2006 07:02:29  
I do. Sometimes, at least. Yeah, I'm a sick puppy! I recently did the rears on my small F--d tractor (removing chloride and painting the rims inside and out). This spring, I put a tube and a big patch on the inside of the 16.9-34 rear tire on my 826 after I had a flat (and found half a hoseshoe embedded in the tire). Last summer, I mounted four used tires on my barge wagon by hand. None of it was super hard, though I haven't done a tire recently that's been rusted on from 30 years of sitting. The tires and rims on big tractors are heavy, so you need the means to move them around. I used the loader on the aforementioned F--d. Call me sick, but I like to stay in practice. My first job was busting tires at a gas station back in the '60s. As you get older, it's a nice test of the 'ol bod to see if you can do that stuff without killing yourself. Nobody will question your manhood for letting to Co-
Op do it. In fact they'll probably praise your intelligence and send the guys with the white suits after me!

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JT

08-29-2006 07:33:48




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 Re: Is anyone changing their own tires? in reply to CharleyFarmall, 08-29-2006 07:02:29  
If you change the tires while they are still on the tractor, they are a lot easier to do, you do not have to fight them moving all over the place when taking off and putting on. I would not pay someone to change tires if you can save a few dollars for some sweat. I have changed them on my M and B, and it was work, but not as bad as what you would think if you do it on the tractor.



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