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Hydrolic question?

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granger

08-27-2006 22:15:35




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I have a 51 M with a front end loader & 2-way hydrolics. I was using it today & I noticed that it started losing power lifting. I check the fluid & it was full. What could be causing this loss of power when I lift? Thanks




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granger

08-28-2006 08:17:56




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 Re: Hydrolic question? in reply to granger, 08-27-2006 22:15:35  
Upon a closer look, I did notice some oil leakage around the pump. It is not leaking a whole lot, but could this be causing the lack of lift in the bucket?



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Andy Martin

08-28-2006 07:39:13




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 Re: Hydrolic question? in reply to granger, 08-27-2006 22:15:35  
Do you have a lot of experience using this tractor?

If not, it may just be getting hot and the oil getting thin which will cause some loss of lifting power.

You didn"t say whether it has live hydraulics. If it still has a belly pump you can put heavier oil in it and compensate some for pump wear/hot oil.



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granger

08-28-2006 08:13:56




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 Re: Hydrolic question? in reply to Andy Martin, 08-28-2006 07:39:13  
I have had the tractor for a few years & not run into this problem yet (besides when my fluid was low & I filled it). I did do a lot of lifting with it yesterday, so I will check it again tonight when the oil is cooled off. The tractor does have live hydrolics. The pump is located up by the distributor.



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Hugh MacKay

08-28-2006 02:50:50




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 Re: Hydrolic question? in reply to granger, 08-27-2006 22:15:35  
granger: Could be a number of items; lines, pump or bypassing within cylinders. Leave it parked for a spell with loader up. If loader starts to settle bypassing will be the culpert. Bear in mind it would have to settle quite fast to create a lifting problem.

If it settles very slightly or not at all, look to the pump for your problem. There is one other thing, quick couplers can as they get older, block or restrict the flow of oil, if that is the case install new ones. If a line blockage is the case and the pump is good, it should cause tractor to labor a bit while lifting. I have seen the inside layer of a hose peel off and restrict oil flow as well. Presure relief valves have been known to be faulty but not often.

Just start the process of elimination. See if loader settles while parked, next listen for engine labor while lifting, but remember a poor pump will probably not cause engine labor even if there is a line restriction.

If this happened all of a sudden, the first place I'd look would be line restriction. Pump and cylinder failure tend to be more gradual, often so gradual you don't notice it until you use another machine.

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