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P Backus

08-24-2006 13:31:16

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It"s been a heck of a summer and I haven"t been around my friends on YT much, but I hope I can spend a little more time here again. I"ll tell you about it some other time, if you"d like.....

Anyway, I"m starting to think about finding a 1086 to fill a HP gap in my operation. Any thoughts in general on those? I know some that love them, some that hate them. A local dealer has one with the power front axle (MFWD) with 7600 hours on it. One of the things that concern me about it is there seems to be a lot of play between the ring and pinion in the front axle. You can grab the driveshaft that runs along the side of the tractor and rotate it maybe 30- 40 degrees before the gears mesh. The slip splines are a bit sloppy in the driveshaft too. Are those spendy to fix? (What isn"t, I guess). They still want $12,500 for a rather tired looking tractor- seems a bit much. Any thoughts?
Paul

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JakeF

08-24-2006 23:26:00

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Re: 1086 MFWD in reply to P Backus, 08-24-2006 13:31:16

PFC...pressure flow compensated. Basically a cross between open and closed center and don't just walk...run from them. We had a 1486 that was a nightmare with the PFC system. It was a late model with the electronic dash...problems also. They have an extra filter by the oil pan. The 1486's also seem to have a lot more rear end/ring and pinion wear because of the extra HP. 1086's don't seem to be too bad unless turned up a bunch. Jake

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P Backus

08-24-2006 23:48:09

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Re: 1086 MFWD in reply to JakeF, 08-24-2006 23:26:00

Hi Jake,
Thanks for the advice. I will have to watch for them. I am needing to educate myself now so I know what I"m looking at when I do spot one. When you say it has an extra filter by the oil pan, do you mean the engine oile pan, or the tranny sump? Did the 88 series get away from some of those problematic things like the PFC system and the goofy digital dash?
By the way, remember my 7140 Magnum that put antifreeze in the oil? Well, milling the head and a new head gasket must have fixed it because it"s been great all summer, including the blown timing gear cover gasket and all the other stuff I fixed in January. However, if you want to talk hydraulic oil leaks..... .!
Paul

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JakeF

08-25-2006 10:47:17

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Re: 1086 MFWD in reply to P Backus, 08-24-2006 23:48:09

Yes, by the engine oil pan. The 88's are basically the same as your magnum from the bellhousing back. The first 13,000 magnums are just a full powershift 88. They were leftover IH made castings that hadt the torque tube draft hole plugged and electronic added. The more severe clunk you get from 6-7 and 12-13 in the magnum is where you shift ranges on an 88. The biggest problem with the 88's is the electronic transmission controls, and burning out one of the clutchpacs. I don't know if you could get an anolog guage set in the 88's or not. Jake

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IaGary

08-24-2006 20:22:15

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Re: 1086 MFWD in reply to P Backus, 08-24-2006 13:31:16

PBackus

I had a 1086fwd for about three years.

Never could get that fwd to run smooth.

Two much angle on the front drive shaft.

U joints were a problem.

Roads speeds were a lot of vibration.

Clutch packs were weak.

Bearing problems in the transfer case also.

And mine only had 4000 hrs. on it.

If I were you I would spend a few more dollars and get a 88 series.

Traded mine on a newer magmun with a much smoother fwd.

My fwd was a Elwood fwd on the 1086 maybe the Coleman is bether but they are hard to get parts for.

I would realy call it a 1086 with fwd not a MFWD because IH never built them.

By the way I have two other 2wl 1086's and they are great.

Gary

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P Backus

08-24-2006 21:26:02

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Re: 1086 MFWD in reply to IaGary, 08-24-2006 20:22:15

Hi Gary,
That"s the kind of input I was looking for. I"m not necessarily sold on that fwd 1086, but I"ve been thinking about one, and adding fwd seems like a good way to may a good thing better, but instead it sounds like a good way to make a good thing worse and more trouble prone.
I already have a 200 HP Magnum, but the next biggest tractor with a PTO is 95 HP, so I was originally thinking of a 1206 or 1466 or similar, but I figured that I wanted the nicer cab and air. What do you like about the 88 series?
I will probably look for a 2wd one. It"s just that this year everything needed to be 4wd. I was getting stuck combining wheat. Got the baler stuck 4 times.
Thanks for the input!
Paul

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Hugh MacKay

08-24-2006 16:58:41

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Re: 1086 MFWD in reply to P Backus, 08-24-2006 13:31:16

Paul: Been wondering what happened to you. I knew I should have gone west this spring, got a job on your farm, then you'd had more time for YT.

I don't know about that 1086, got to be better buys than that out there.

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P Backus

08-24-2006 22:00:33

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Re: 1086 MFWD in reply to Hugh MacKay, 08-24-2006 16:58:41

Hello Hugh,
Yes, I was thinking about you this summer. There were a good many times when I could have used your help. I had pretty much decided to go it alone this summer to try to dig myself out of a hole I seem to have been digging the last couple of years (at least partly caused by some of the help that I"ve had in the past!).
Well, with all the rain we"ve gotten this summer, the custom baling has been more than double the usual amount. I"ve reluctantly been letting my other business slide and turning down work because I just couldn"t get it all done anymore. You can only work about 18 hrs a day.....
I think I will keep my eyes peeled for a different tractor. It seems like a 1086 would fit well between the 95 HP and the 200 HP.
Brother-in-law"s mother has an Allis 8030 for sale, but geez, that"s the wrong color (and maybe a bit more $)!
Paul

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the tractor vet

08-24-2006 16:15:39

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Re: 1086 MFWD in reply to P Backus, 08-24-2006 13:31:16

Keep looking there are better ones out there and finding one that has less hours for a couple bucks more would be money well spent . myself i like the ones that do not have the PFC hyd. system less problems . The bad points are they ride rougher then a 66 seires it is harder to get in and out of with factory steps now there are a aftermarket steps that make it a bunch nicer to get up and down on . They are hard to get in and out of park . If it has a cab ya sure want to keep the A/C working as even with the side and back winder open ya don't get any air flow . When working next to trees branches or what ever ya want to close the side windows or it will take a week to get all the glass out of the cab BTDT.

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P Backus

08-24-2006 21:38:34

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Re: 1086 MFWD in reply to the tractor vet, 08-24-2006 16:15:39

Hi T"Vet,
I appreciate your insight. I thought they all had a priority valve for the hyd system since the 06 series, or is the PFC system that you are talking about different? What year did they start that?
I"m also wondering how it can ride rougher than the 66 series? Seems like they would be the same with the same tires and all. Shorter wheelbase? I do think those aftermarket steps look nice though.
I"ll bet that after you got done putting all those tiny pieces of glass in the cab with that branch, you found you had much better air flow through the cab!
I think I will keep looking.
Paul

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