Behlen power steering unit

Thanks,
RoninKS

The GB loader on this tractor is being driven by a hydralic pump on the PTO, so the belly pump wouldn't be used for anything else except the power steering (if it's okay to hook up the power steering that way).

Thanks for any info,
RoninKS

You can use your PTO pump to run your power steering also. that is the way I am running my power steering and FEL as my live hydraulic pump lost the seals and I haven't had time to replace them. Way I hooked mine up, is I plumbed the Flow Control valve before FEL spool valve. I then used the "CF"(control flow) outlet on valve, to my power steering unit. I hooked up line to FEL spool valve to the "EX"(excess flow) output on the Flow Control valve. After I got everything hooked up, I started tractor and adjusted FCV so power steering worked well, all the rest of the hydraulic fluid runs the FEL. I haven't noticed any restrictions on operation of my loader.

On my tractor I had no choice to use pto pump untill I had time to fix tractors hydraulics, with no hydraulics I could not steer tractor AT ALL, Hydro-static steering!!...HTH

I know, Clear as mud!!!...LOL

Keith & Shawn

I thank you fellas for your suggestions and advice, and I'll let you know how this works out. If this doesn't work well, at least I'll have a story to share with someone else that may have the same problems I'm having. LOL

RoninKS

The power steering unit I have is mounted as you discribed (up close to the steering support post), and after scrapeing off grease and dirt from the pump in front of the distributor I see it is also made by Behlen.

Thanks for the reply, I reckon I'll have to live without "live power", and I need to clean everything up better to see exactly what I have. This poor old M has been rode hard and put away wet, too many times (plus the sad fact, I don't know much about tractors). LOL

RoninKS

The flow divider valve is Brand Hyd. Model no. FC51. Omaha,NE...HTH

Keith & Shawn

Is there any way possible to also add a 3 point hitch to my M without using the same pump for the Behlen power steering? (the 3 point would have to have enough power to lift and carry round bales weighing 1000#'s.)

Thanks,
RoninKS

I am using a flow divider to run power steering and my FEL also (S 77 Oliver). HTH

Keith & Shawn.

RoninKS

I'd prefer to run the power steering off the M's belly pump if possible, that way I could have live power to a 3 point hitch and GB loader using the distributor driven pump (I think).

Maybe I'm hopeing for too much out of this old M. LOL

Thanks,
RoninKS

The Behlen pump up by the distributor is a live pump, but does not have enough capacity to run a loader and 3pt hitch. It's only 3GPM, as far as I know, just enough to run the power steering and maybe a small hydraulic cylinder for something like a mower lift or snow plow...

Attaching the power steering to the belly pump would mean that whenver you pushed the clutch pedal, you'd lose power steering, and it'll be ten times has hard to steer than it would be without no power steering at all...

Another option is to convert to a factory live hydraulic pump, and run everything off it, using a priority valve to the power steering.

You can blow a CharLynn steering motor with the flow from a factory live pump, so you'll definitely want a relief valve in the mix. Dad was using the belly pump as a reservoir on his Super M and the cows knocked the belly pump lever back. When he went to start the tractor, KABLOOEY! Suffice it to say that he removed the lever permanently after that little $500 mistake.

I can't hardly steer this tractor (even with an empty bucket), in fact I'm thinking about taking the Behlen steering unit completely off and welding in a section of round stock, because like you say, power steering that doesn't work is 10 times harder to use than regular steering. :>(

I'm sure open to any suggestions at this point! LOL

RoninKS