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HEY GUYS CHECK THIS OUT THOUGHT ON STUCK MOTOR

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magman

08-20-2006 04:58:59




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I posted this below has anyone ever tryed this? I got up this morning and it came to me, Hey you never know.
I was just thinking of a way to get that bad boy free and let me know if you try it or it works.
Take a round piece of metal that will fit in on top of the piston perferable 1/4" probly Get a GOOD Air Impact chissle with a good blunt chissle. About 125 or more pressure on a good big compressure and some ear protection and let that bad boy loose all around that metal. In my trade I have used them alot and the vibration will loosen the parts or your brain. LOL
JON

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Fancy Farm

08-20-2006 20:29:01




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 Re: HEY GUYS CHECK THIS OUT THOUGHT ON STUCK MOTOR in reply to magman, 08-20-2006 04:58:59  
Remove head stuck valves make the job harder. soak with your choice of oil I use trans fluid and wd 40, after 2 weeks put a hyd bottle jack under crank on stuck cyl chain down the tractor and jack up on crank always worked for me never tore anything up yet and the last one I did had been sitting in a barn with the hed off for several years. replaced sleeves put in new rings and all is well.



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Troy in MI

08-20-2006 12:20:10




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 Re: HEY GUYS CHECK THIS OUT THOUGHT ON STUCK MOTOR in reply to magman, 08-20-2006 04:58:59  
Got this idea from a website for the hit-and-miss engine enthusiasts. These guys find engines that have been abandoned in fence-rows for decades and have been rusted solid. The idea is to fill the cylinder with grease and use the pressure of a grease gun to loosen the piston. I did this with a tractor a few years ago and it worked like a charm. I had tried every idea mentioned on this website with the exception of chisling the piston out. I wanted to try to salvage the piston. It turned out the piston was so badly worn (ring grooves) that it was unusable. But I have a nice conversation piece that I use as a paperweight on my desk.

Anyway, I started by removing the head and pulling the cylinders that were not stuck. I then removed the rod of the stuck piston from the crankshaft and turned the shaft away from the rod. Next task was to compress the valves on the stuck cylinder and smear some JB weld between the valves and the seats (don't worry, the JB weld is easily removed later). Then release the valves to allow them to seat. This prevents any grease from leaking past the valves later. Then fill the cylinder with grease (you can also substitute pieces of wood or other 'fillers' as long as they are incompressible). Next using the old head gasket, put the head back onto the engine. Then fashion a fitting into the spark plug hole that will attach to your grease gun. I took a donor spark plug and knocked the ceramic off. I then drilled out the center so that I was left with the metal end that threads into the spark plug hole. I took a metal fitting for a grease gun and MIG welded it to the end of the donor spark plug. Next, attach any grease gun to the fitting and start to pump with grease. For me, it took about five pumps before I noticed the piston begin to move. And it took almost no effort to pump the grease gun (those guns develop a lot of pressure).

A half an hour later I had the head off, the valves cleaned, the grease removed, and the piston in my hand. Again, this was a tractor that would not budge. I had tried the block of wood with 5-lb sledge until I thought that I'd crack the block. There was no damage to the piston (other than the wear previously mentioned) and the cylinder just needed a good honing. With a new piston, set of rings, and a gasket set, the tractor has been earning it's keep at my place ever since.

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John A.

08-20-2006 09:02:10




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 Re: HEY GUYS CHECK THIS OUT THOUGHT ON STUCK MOTOR in reply to magman, 08-20-2006 04:58:59  
magman, I do not see any reason why that wouldn't work, Except....Needing major hearing protection and a good Chiropractor. It seems to me that filling each cylinder with DSL and setting it on fire is a lot less strainious on your back, shoulders, arms & hands than your method. After the fire burns out then just a few good licks of a 4 lb hammer and a block will do the trick them. In my mind what ever does the job with the least amy of sweat and strain is by far the best way. Also the parts are reuseable if still some count. My thoughts!
Later,
John A.

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Geoff NY

08-20-2006 08:00:25




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 Re: HEY GUYS CHECK THIS OUT THOUGHT ON STUCK MOTOR in reply to magman, 08-20-2006 04:58:59  
Years ago working on a chevy, I took a rotary hammer drill that I use for work, put a chunk of oak in an presto!



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Wardner

08-20-2006 05:24:27




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 Re: HEY GUYS CHECK THIS OUT THOUGHT ON STUCK MOTOR in reply to magman, 08-20-2006 04:58:59  
I have a better idea that will put your air hammer to work. Mix up some expansion cement and quickly pour it through a spark plug hole. That should force the piston down. Take off the head and chip out the cement.



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Harold Hubbard

08-20-2006 05:24:23




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 Re: HEY GUYS CHECK THIS OUT THOUGHT ON STUCK MOTOR in reply to magman, 08-20-2006 04:58:59  
You can improve on that by going out and buying an actual hammer head for the air chisel. I bought mine years ago from the Snap-on truck and it was about $15, probably a lot more now, and maybe available somewhere else for less. Once you have one you will find a great many other uses for it. My favorite is disassembling universal joints.



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James Williams

08-20-2006 05:20:38




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 Re: HEY GUYS CHECK THIS OUT THOUGHT ON STUCK MOTOR in reply to magman, 08-20-2006 04:58:59  
Magman,I've used this system for years,except 1/4 is not enought,i've got a couple of discs made from 3/4 flat stock,close to the dia.of the piston.Wrap the inside of the sleve with a peice of heavy plastic,for protection.use a 2x2 peice of steel and a sledge to jar each piston while soaking with pentrating oil.You can tell if the piston is loose by feeling it vibrate when hitting the other pistons,remove each piston as they come loose.Adapt a 4ft.lever to the belt pulley and jar both ways,This has worked on a Mc-10-20,2-F12,1-F14,1-F20,and a Farmall regular

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