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David Allgire

08-18-2006 18:14:07




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Why is it I can still obtain parts for a 1935, '36, '38 Farmall and I cannot obtain parts (read pump head) for a Sears Power washer that I purchased in 1999? It just totally frosts me that the Sears people tell me "the manufacturer no longer supplies that part". I was told the local service center "may" have the part in stock, but if it's going to cost more than 50% of the original cost of the power washer, I might as well buy a new one. But then, what do I do with the old one? The engine is still fine, but the washer pump is shot. I thought there was a law that a manufacturer was supposed to supply parts for a total of 10 years. What am I missing here? I can buy any kind of parts from this site or Gordon Rice in PA for my Farmall's but Sears says "the manufacturer no longer supplies that part". Hey, I can even go to the local Dodge dealer and buy parts for my '99 Dodge diesel pickup. So what's srong with this picture? And I'm finding out in a hurry, Sears quality in some of the items they sell is going to h*** in a hand basket. It seems like anymore nobody services what they sell, and that goes for Home Depot, Lowes or whomever. What's a feller to do? I wanted to order some Orings (metric) for the hose and they were going to cost $.80 each but Sears wanted $10.00 shipping on top of that. I was able to go to a local parts/repair center (HotZ) and purchase the Orings for $.80 ea., plus tax, no shipping. Course that didn't fix the problem. Just ventilating here and was wondering if any others have had a similiar experience.

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worldsworstfarmer

08-19-2006 19:41:07




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 Re: OT..Sears Craftsman versus IHC Farmall..a litt in reply to David Allgire, 08-18-2006 18:14:07  
I have a GE fridge in my farm show, works like a charm, I am guessing 1950's era.

It has to do with the time we live in. Everyone wants it cheap, and right now. We fix nothing!!!
We have no one capable of fixing anything. When was the last time you took a TV in for repair? They'll look at you like you have lost your mind!

"Well we can fix it for $400.00, but you can buy a newer "better" model for $395.

They were the good ole days.


Gene

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JT

08-19-2006 06:43:54




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 Re: OT..Sears Craftsman versus IHC Farmall..a litt in reply to David Allgire, 08-18-2006 18:14:07  
Sears does NOT manufacturer anything. Everything Sears sells is made by someone else. They have no desire to sell you parts, they want you to buy new equipment. As for the 10 year parts law, that law is not worth the paper it is written on. Most companies DO furnish parts for their euqipment, just not in the way YOU want them. They sell the whole pump, not the parts to fix them. If they furnished the parts to fix the cheap pressure washers people like to buy, then the cost of the pressure would be to the point you would not buy it, it would cost too much. If you go buy a 7-800.00 pressure washer, you can buy any part you want, but buy a 200.00 pressure washer, you cannot buy parts for it. Why??? you ask. Most of the time, if you can buy the parts, and pay someone to put them on and repair it, the cost to repair would excede the cost of a whole unit.Briggs and Stratton Portable Power products is a good example, they sell cheap pressure washers, and some are sold by Sears,you can buy parts, but the pumps are made of alumiun and when you take them apart and try to rebuild them, the still leak, they are warped, and a seal kit might cost 45.00

When the manufacturer makes replacement parts, part of the cost to set up manufacturing, manufactur, box, ship, sell the part will be inlcuded in the price of the machine you are buying and if these costs are added into the price of a 200.00 pressure washer, it them becomes a 350.00 pressure washer, that is cheap made, then it does not sell, too high priced fore what it is. My friend, due to the type of world we live in, everyone wants a LOW priced product, then they do not not like the end result of a cheap product when it breaks, it gets replaced, the repair excedes the cost of repair, then no one wants it repaired, the look for a CHEAPER alternative, a new pressure washer, Then the manufacturer has all the excess parts sitting in a warehouse, not being sold, it is too costly to repair and use these parts, then the circle starts again. Now you say you can get parts for a 1935-36-37-38 Farmall, but not a 5 year old Sears product. When that 1935-36-37-38 Farmall was bought, it was a hi dollar product, built to a very high standard of quality for the time it was built, not built because the end user wants something CHAEAP!!!

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Ohio Mark

08-18-2006 21:09:45




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 Re: OT..Sears Craftsman versus IHC Farmall..a litt in reply to David Allgire, 08-18-2006 18:14:07  
If I'm not mistaken, last year Kmart bought Sears - that says it all right there.



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Pete in Cal

08-18-2006 20:04:38




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 Re: OT..Sears Craftsman versus IHC Farmall..a litt in reply to David Allgire, 08-18-2006 18:14:07  
This is not a new condition with Sears. A friend had a Sears well pump motor quit that was only 3-4 yrs old. When he took it in they asked where he " got that old motor". This happened in 1965.



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Nat 2

08-18-2006 19:26:51




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 Re: OT..Sears Craftsman versus IHC Farmall..a litt in reply to David Allgire, 08-18-2006 18:14:07  
Stores like Sears, Lowes, Home Depot, etc. are targeting a segment of the population that is INCAPABLE of fixing anything for themselves. You are in the infinitesimal minority of people who finds something broken and tries to fix it.

Either embrace the throw away society, or don't buy "durable" goods from stores that don't sell durable goods.

BTW, the 10-year law is for cars only, if there is even such a law at all.

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Easy1

08-18-2006 19:51:12




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 Re: OT..Sears Craftsman versus IHC Farmall..a litt in reply to Nat 2, 08-18-2006 19:26:51  
yes, there is such a law. I think it is 10 years or more on mechanical, and i don't remember on the chassis parts.



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Roger46

08-18-2006 19:48:13




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 Re: OT..Sears Craftsman versus IHC Farmall..a litt in reply to Nat 2, 08-18-2006 19:26:51  
Nat, you are definitely right there. Nobody seems to have the ability or even desire to fix anything any more. If it breaks just throw it away. I just replaced the condensor fan on my old 1977 Sears refrigerator (I was amazed that they actually had the part as most times they don't - and wasn't that expensive). I was telling my nephew about it and he said, "Roger, who, but you would ever replace that fan motor?" On the other hand, my wife says I go to extremes the other way as she bought a new washer and dryer while I was on a fishing trip; because that is the only way she thought she could get new ones as I would always just fix the old ones. My sister was amazed that people she works with couldn't even put a new plug on the end of a appliance cord. They would take it to some place or throw away. Some time this has to stop I think. Roger

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MN Scott

08-18-2006 19:12:48




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 Re: OT..Sears Craftsman versus IHC Farmall..a litt in reply to David Allgire, 08-18-2006 18:14:07  
You could try Northern, they might have a new quaility pump for the price Sears wants for the head. I did that about ten years ago when my cheap Generac pump blew up but the motor was hardly broke in yet. I think the GP pump I bought was aroung $150, but it has lots of hours on it without a problem so far.



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City-Boy McCoy

08-18-2006 19:07:51




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 Re: OT..Sears Craftsman versus IHC Farmall..a litt in reply to David Allgire, 08-18-2006 18:14:07  
Except for Craftsman hand tools, Sears sells "throw-away" products. Same is true for Home Depot, Lowes and Wally-World. Buy a name brand pressure washer which costs 50% more than a Craftsman brand and you can get parts for years and years.

I have a Sears cordless drill. The battery went dead. The new battery is $34, while a whole new Sears cordless drill with TWO batteries is $46. Throw away a perfectly good drill, I guess.....

If Sears had made tractors in 1939, you would not be able to get parts for them today. But, the purchase price would have been a lot less than what a comparable Farmall sold for in '39. mike

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Steven@AZ

08-18-2006 18:40:41




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 Re: OT..Sears Craftsman versus IHC Farmall..a litt in reply to David Allgire, 08-18-2006 18:14:07  
I can even still get parts for my 94 Honda del Sol and they only imported about 75,000 of them!

Sears = re-badged junk



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Paul Shuler

08-18-2006 18:52:11




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 Re: OT..Sears Craftsman versus IHC Farmall..a litt in reply to Steven@AZ, 08-18-2006 18:40:41  
My dad had the same thing happen with one he bought at Lowes. They could no longer get pumps and they no longer carried that brand. After some "discussion" they replaced his with a new one of the brand they carried the time. Sorry I don't recall what the brands where. I think they must buy whatever junk china can sell them cheap.



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