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Leaking Belt Pully Gearbox Gasket on H

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awutay@worldnet.att.net

08-12-2006 19:59:56




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I have the following problem on my ’41 H and its driving me crazy.

When I bought my H it was missing the belt pulley gearbox and pulley. Covering the gearbox opening was a thin homemade flat metal plate and a gasket. There was some minor grime build up on the plate every once and a awhile, and I chalked it up to the non-factory standard part and the fact that the bolt holes were 2X the size they should have been (they were flame cut holes, not drilled)

I finally got my hands on a belt pulley gearbox, cut a new gasket, and installed it using silicone gasket sealer as an added safety. Immediately I began to see leakage out of the back of the gearbox at the gasket (By leakage I mean about 2 tablespoons of tranny oil every time I shut down). I figured I had jarred the gasket out of position sliding it into place under the gas tank.

After two more tries with new gaskets and silicone, oil was still leaking. So instead of trying to replace the belt pulley as I had, I did two things. 1) I checked the flatness of both the tranny case where the belt pulley gearbox sits, and also the belt pulley flange and 2) instead of trying to slide the gearbox into place under the gas tank, I removed everything in the area to allow me to install the gearbox unobstructed from above.

The flange on the gearbox was flat. On the tranny cover, at the area it was leaking, it was dished inward .015 inches, certainly not enough to cause a problem, but….

When I reinstalled the gearbox a 4th time, I used a good bit of silicone on the back side and didn’t initially torque down the bolts (I let the weight of the gearbox form the gasket). The first time out – no problems. The second run a few days later and the gearbox is leaking again!

As far as I can tell the gearbox is splash lubed, so there shouldn’t be any pressure that would force the oil out the back of the flange.

So does anybody have an idea about what is going on?

Art

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awutay@worldnet.att.net

08-13-2006 09:21:08




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 Re: Leaking Belt Pully Gearbox Gasket on H in reply to awutay@worldnet.att.net, 08-12-2006 19:59:56  
Using the standard Pep Boys gasket material - not the greatest... probably should get the Farmall part

definitely criss cross on the torque and new bolts and washers (per the length in the parts catalog)

noticed the expansion plug, but haven't seen any leakage out of it - the only place I noticed leakage was at the gasket to tranny interface when I removed the gearbox

Art



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GordoSD

08-12-2006 20:48:41




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 Re: Leaking Belt Pully Gearbox Gasket on H in reply to awutay@worldnet.att.net, 08-12-2006 19:59:56  
I am not a big fan of silicon gasket products; too many variables in curing. What are you useing for a gasket? How are you torqueing the assembly? Criss/cross or around the clock? Around the clock is bad. Check your bolts for proper length. NEW lock washers. I would get some gasket material from NAPA and cut a quality gasket of fibre material. Torque in a alternating pattern.

Gordo



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kfox

08-12-2006 22:57:37




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 Re: Leaking Belt Pully Gearbox Gasket on H in reply to GordoSD, 08-12-2006 20:48:41  
That gasket is a little thicker than normal gasket paper(just bought one-7 bucks) Also there are two copper washers on top of the two long bolts. Probably not your problem. Arw you sure its not leaking from the pulley gearbox instead of the cover gasket? There is an expansion plug on the end of one of the shafts, ken



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