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OLD DOG ---- NEW TRICKS (Long)

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biggerred

08-09-2006 09:30:16




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I've been fooling around with Farmalls for several years and thought I was pretty good at working on the old stuff until I started working on the timing on my old 300 RC. The guy I bought it from many years ago, had rebuilt it but had it timed backwards. It allways ran great so I never changed it back. Lately it started acting stupid so I started investigating. Changed points, condencer and plug wires, (plugs were good)but it still ran stupid and was hard to get started. Changed coils, but no change. I pulled out the distributor, and found the drive gear loose on the shaft. Changed it out with a good dist. unit, got #1 to TDC, set the points, went to fire her up,,,,, nothing. Scratched my head, rechecked everything, bought a new horse honking battery, (thought the other one would not take a charge)started again,,nothing. Checked the shop manual, found out the hundred series tractors had several different distributors, an O, a S, amoung others, and each one set to a different timing mark on the crank pully, not TDC. The one I had replaced the original one with was an "A" which is for a C248 engine, not the 169, and the book says set it to the 2nd mark. So this evening after work, I will replace the "A" with an "O" and set it to the second mark and hope for the best. Why all the different marks anyway? (different degrees of advance)

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Hayfarmer

08-09-2006 12:30:44




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 Re: OLD DOG ---- NEW TRICKS (Long) in reply to biggerred, 08-09-2006 09:30:16  
If I follow what you have said about being "timed backwards", I would understand that to mean it was 180 degrees off. Would still work as long as wires on cp are also 180 off. If that is the case I don't see how you could ever get it timed by the marks on the flywheel. Maybe I don't fully understnd what timed backwards means.



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biggerred

08-09-2006 12:37:04




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 Re: OLD DOG ---- NEW TRICKS (Long) in reply to Hayfarmer, 08-09-2006 12:30:44  
He had the firing order from back to front with his #1 being at the clutch housing



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Bob

08-09-2006 13:30:28




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 Re: OLD DOG ---- NEW TRICKS (Long) in reply to biggerred, 08-09-2006 12:37:04  
You can call any cylinder you want #1, and, as long as you arrange the wires in the correct sequence, the engine isn't smart enough to know you are tricky, and will run perfectly just the same!



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Mike CA

08-09-2006 11:07:36




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 Re: OLD DOG ---- NEW TRICKS (Long) in reply to biggerred, 08-09-2006 09:30:16  
It's funny. I read every word of what you wrote. I understood maybe 30% of it!

lol

I can't wait to learn!



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Brad in WI

08-09-2006 11:18:54




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 Re: OLD DOG ---- NEW TRICKS (Long) in reply to Mike CA, 08-09-2006 11:07:36  
I know what you mean. I have worked on several diesel motors but never had the opportunity to work on a gas motor. That is until now.



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