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Hugh MacKay

08-09-2006 02:45:06




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A week ago today we had quite a vicious electrical storm. In the middle of it I lost phone service, or at least I thought that at first. Later that day I discovered if I unpluged computer from phone jack, the phones would work. Off to the computer shop for a new modem.

By the weekend, got the computer back, but it wont stay on line very well, most of the time. This seems to be the worst if sending or downloading e mails. Twice while checking settings, we have received a message, "poor line quality". Our ISP tells us we our computer settings are fine and it should work. Phone company tells us they will check lines next week.

We have our phone and internet service both from Bell. For about a year they were flogging numerous other products. I've never felt Bell lines in this area were great, we have phone answering that sometimes works. I told them just yesterday, you didn't get to sell us more services, as you haven't given good service on what we have.

Is it time to go the satalite route? Any advice would be appreciated. Contrary to what I usually do, I am not clicking e mail on this. Also could any of you folks that send me e mails hold off until I get to the bottom of this. This thing seems to function best when no e mail are coming or going. Thanks

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DDG

08-10-2006 08:09:16




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 Re: OT Dial up Computer woes in reply to Hugh MacKay, 08-09-2006 02:45:06  
Some of the satellite service will "throttle" your service if you use it too much. There are hundreds of new WISP"s popping up all over the country to serve rural customers, and the price is coming down. My neighbor paid $200 for Lawrencefreenet.com to put up a reciever on his roof, and he enjoys high speed wireless for $19.95 per month. He gets his signal from KU in Lawrence, KS about 6 miles away. A competitor in the area has similar service but it"s $59.95 and requires a 2 yr contract, so you can see who"s getting the customers in the area. There are providers all over Kansas popping up in small towns. Do a Google search for Broadband or DSL for rural customers and see what you can find. Here is a link, one of many. Link

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Hugh MacKay

08-09-2006 18:25:01




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 Re: OT Dial up Computer woes in reply to Hugh MacKay, 08-09-2006 02:45:06  
First off, this will be short and sweet, none of those long winded posts you guys are used to from Hugh MacKay. I want to thank each any everyone of you for your suggestions. We now know there was phone line damage from the storm.

To Mike, my wife Marg. has already been through what you suggested. She admits she is missing something, thus will copy you post before having another go at it tomorrow. She will not do computer adjustments while I'm around. I just don't have the patience. She is correct. Now, if this was just a Farmall, it would be so simple.

I have a buddy, quite a strong DEERE man, has a pacemaker, doesn't get along very well with it. Another friend suggested to the John Deere dealer, they should manufacture a Deere pace maker, thus our common freind would have a better chance of survival.

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GA Dave

08-09-2006 18:04:18




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 Re: OT Dial up Computer woes in reply to Hugh MacKay, 08-09-2006 02:45:06  
In 93 we had a blizzard. 14" of snow, sleet, thunderstorms, below 0 nights, ice stripping pine trees clean of limbs. (Here in NW GA). Ten years later my phone line started acting up. A tree limb had stripped the insulation off the wire and it took that long to cause problems. I'm on dialup with the AARP sponsered ISP @ $9.95 per month. Just bought a new emachines at Office Depot for $299.01 and it takes one minute to get online vs seven for my old one. I know' I've got to wait 10 weeks to get the two $50.00 rebates and then have to send copies of everything again. If a computer is three or four years old use it for a boat anchor and get a new one. Just my $299.01 + 01 cents worth. Hey, I'm restoring a 58 IH 240 Utility and have to be frugal. GA Dave.

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El Toro

08-10-2006 04:18:13




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 Re: OT Dial up Computer woes in reply to GA Dave, 08-09-2006 18:04:18  
I hope you when you sent in those rebates you ask for a return signature by the person that received
the rebates.

We ran into this problem with a rebate on a Brother printer. It was sent in in March 2006
and we waited 8 weeks and called. Brother said they never received it. Had to resubmit a claim
and we had sent the UPC symbol with the first letter. Got a card stating the rebate wasn't going to be given without the UPC symbol. I called them and gave them a piece of my mind and they finally agreed to send the rebate. We got the $30.00 in July. From now on I'm asking for a signature on any rebate so you know who signed for it. Hal

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GA Dave

08-10-2006 20:51:02




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 Re: OT Dial up Computer woes in reply to El Toro, 08-10-2006 04:18:13  
No I didn't. I thought I followed the instructions. I did make copies of everything. Thanks for the info. BTW Is El Toro anything like The Bull? David.



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El Toro

08-11-2006 03:45:33




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 Re: OT Dial up Computer woes in reply to GA Dave, 08-10-2006 20:51:02  
It's the same. Hal



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TomH in PA

08-09-2006 16:39:58




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 Re: OT Dial up Computer woes in reply to Hugh MacKay, 08-09-2006 02:45:06  
One last thing to check is how the phone line is grounded. The phone line and electric power should have their grounds connected. Bad grounding will confused the modem.



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Ron-MO

08-09-2006 12:02:13




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 Re: OT Dial up Computer woes in reply to Hugh MacKay, 08-09-2006 02:45:06  
I agree with what Allen says - have the phone co. check for noise, then reinstall the driver for the modem (no cost so far)....then I would put another new modem in it. Any spike from the line will take out the modem or cause problems. I have had quite a bit of experience and work with a 100 pc network and have seen most problems in one way or another. Allan is right those pc repair shops come and go and most of them (no, not all) have not a clue or any experience with electronics, and/or how a pc functions other than simply how to plug in a board. With that said I will never buy a pc from a local shop who builds their own piecemeal. Some may be fine, but most often they never really work right and often you end up paying for replacemnt parts within a year or two. I currently purchase pcs for work, and buy Dell equipment and rarely have a problem and if I do they replace the part (and labor) within one day at no cost and most Dell pcs come with a 3 year warranty. No, I do not work for Dell or get any compensation from them. I have started buying Dell refurb pcs and servers with good luck from them as well. My experience shows that you will end up spending more for the local "geek" who buids one than just buying a factory machine and it will run better/longer. Again, just my experience and your local guy may know what he is doing. Down my way it is usually some guy who found he could put one together and set up a shop.

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Henry E.

08-09-2006 11:15:36




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 Re: OT Dial up Computer woes in reply to Hugh MacKay, 08-09-2006 02:45:06  
I had a similar experience last year and after much trepidatiion the phone co finally came to the house and sure enuff it was a switch box located on a pole 1`60 feet ffrom the house that was pretty well blackend from lightning surges. A new one fixed the problem



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Mike CA

08-09-2006 10:38:25




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 Re: OT Dial up Computer woes in reply to Hugh MacKay, 08-09-2006 02:45:06  
Hi Hugh,

I'm glad I can finally answer questions I know something about! I work on computers, and I know a few things about them. I read over a lot of the comments, and some of them offer some good advice. I'll summarize them in the order in which I think you should do them. Hopefully that will help get you stable. But I have to assume that you didn't install the new modem yourself? And that the modem that was installed was different than the one that got fried?

First and Foremost... Reinstall the driver! If it was installed incorrectly, you will pull your hair out trying to figure out other reasons. So just reinstall it correctly to make sure.
Your new modem came with a disk. Put the disk in. Right Click "My Computer", then go to "Properties", then to "Hardware", then to "Device manager". Once in there you should see "Network Adapaters", and in there you should see your modem listed. Double click your modem, and then go to the "Driver" tab, then "Update Driver". From there I can't follow the specifc steps since I am at work and locked out of those functions. But you want to tell the computer to find a new driver, and that YOU want to install it. Do NOT do the auto install. When it asks you from where, tell it from the CD drive. Then browse within the CD to find the specifc driver for that modem for your operating system. Select it, then hit OK and install it. Then reboot your computer. (If you need me to walk you through this on the phone, I will be more than happy to. I will e-mail you my phone number)

I think that the driver update is your best bet. That's what the problem sounds like to me. The second culprit could be the modem itself. The third would be the motherboard... but you would probably have bigger problems then just the one you are describing. I doubt that the phone lines are an issue. They don't just go bad like that, lightening or not... but there is always that outside chance, so you are well within your rights to have the phone company do a noise check and integrity check of your lines.

Have you looked into internet options other than dial-up? Is DSL an option? or Cable? Cable can get pricey. I had DSL for $15 a month, but I have no idea what they offer where you are. It's certainly worth some investigation.

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El Toro

08-09-2006 08:01:31




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 Re: OT Dial up Computer woes in reply to Hugh MacKay, 08-09-2006 02:45:06  
If your computer was hit from lightning your homeowners insurance should pay for a new one. Since having the old computer repaired didn't solve the problem. Hal



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Ron in Nebr

08-09-2006 11:14:15




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 Re: OT Dial up Computer woes in reply to El Toro, 08-09-2006 08:01:31  
Had a bad lightning storm here at our ranch a couple years back. Took out my computer, the computer in my mom's house, sattelite TV boxes in all three houses on the place, and some other stuff I can't remember. Insurance paid to replace everything with new.

We're still on dial up. Slow and aggravating, but not many other options here I don't think. We can't even get cell phone service where our place is so anything that comes from a signal from a tower someplace is out. Thought about sattelite, but every time we get a decent rainstorm(been awhile now!) our tv reception is lost, and I'd hate to have that happen on the 'puter as well. Guess dial up's better than nothing!

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El Toro

08-09-2006 13:33:48




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 Re: OT Dial up Computer woes in reply to Ron in Nebr, 08-09-2006 11:14:15  
My insuance paid for ours during a tropical storm called Floyd in 1999. Lots of power lines were down and when then they restored the electric service for some reason it kept going off and on and the computer couldn't withstand that. I took the computer to a repair shop and they said
it would cost more than it was worth. I called the insurance company since I knew there would be lots claims. They wanted a copy from the repair shop and told me to pick out a new computer. Had to send the receipt to them, it may have been a copy. They sent me a check for the full amount.Hal
PS: It's too crowded around here anymore. You may be better off in NE.

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Nick in Kansas

08-09-2006 07:16:36




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 Re: OT Dial up Computer woes in reply to Hugh MacKay, 08-09-2006 02:45:06  
We went with Wild Blue a year ago. We were getting raped with our local phone company. They had the only service, and it was costing us $100/month, Anyhow to make a long story short, I am not real happy with WildBlue either. They aren't any faster then the old dialup, and here recantly I have had problems getting on. Just my 2cents worth.



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Hermit

08-09-2006 06:52:27




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 Re: OT Dial up Computer woes in reply to Hugh MacKay, 08-09-2006 02:45:06  
I'd check a couple of things. Is the phone line plugged into the line jack and not the phone jack on the modem? Have you uninstalled the drivers and also deleted the modem from the device manager, rebooted the computer then loaded new drivers? Did you check the modem options in the control panel and see if they're still valid for the new modem? Did you look at the Internet Options in the control panel for new changes? Hopefully, your computer wasn't on when you took the lightning strike or you might have some corrupted files on the hard drive. Good luck.

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texp

08-09-2006 06:48:06




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 Re: OT Dial up Computer woes in reply to Hugh MacKay, 08-09-2006 02:45:06  
I had REALLY bad dial-up service, NEVER better than 26k with a separate phone line. Anyway, I switched to Wildblue. Once they got it running, it worked much faster, and I could drop the 2nd line, so the cost ended up to be the same. That was a year ago. Lately I have been having problems getting connected, I finally got them to put in a service ticket. The repair man told me that the dish was not tightened down when installed, and the wind had moved it a little. Wildblue charged me for the service call, stating that there could be many reasons why the dish came loose, and since they had my bank account # and authorization to withdraw from my account, I was SOL. I was able to get 1/2 of the service call charge removed by subscribing to their maintenance service @ 4.95 / month. Anyway, while the service seems to be pretty good, the customer service is similar to what we find on the floor of the barn.
Tex

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CNKS

08-09-2006 06:22:43




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 Re: OT Dial up Computer woes in reply to Hugh MacKay, 08-09-2006 02:45:06  
Hugh, I assume you are out of range for DSL. If so you might check around and see if you can locate a local provider for wireless. This is not satellite but the signal is relayed through a series of towers, no phone line, but you have to be in range of the first tower--maybe 5 miles, probably more I don't know, but not nearly as close as the phone company for DSL has to be. My electric utility (Electric Cooperative) provides that service for $37/month. Also excellent service if something goes wrong.

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Hugh MacKay

08-09-2006 13:45:10




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 Re: OT Dial up Computer woes in reply to CNKS, 08-09-2006 06:22:43  
CNKS: That type of service is here, tower less than 1.5 miles from me. One snag, I don't like their $70. per month.



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Allan In NE

08-09-2006 06:21:47




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 Re: OT Dial up Computer woes in reply to Hugh MacKay, 08-09-2006 02:45:06  
Hugh,

First off, the telephone company can check your line for noise from their desk; I've had it done many times while I waited on another line.

Secondly, I would bet everything I own that your problem now is in that new modem you just had installed.

I've seen computer shops come and computer shops go. You can bet your life that the unit they installed cost them $3 tops and they probably popped you for a $100 bill to take the two minutes to install it.

Just my opinion,

Allan

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Hugh MacKay

08-09-2006 13:41:24




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 Re: OT Dial up Computer woes in reply to Allan In NE, 08-09-2006 06:21:47  
Allan: Your hot, $8.00 off first prise.



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VAJerry

08-09-2006 03:48:07




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 Re: OT Dial up Computer woes in reply to Hugh MacKay, 08-09-2006 02:45:06  
Heres two I'm looking at
Link
http://www.elitesat.com/scripts/



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magman

08-09-2006 03:52:09




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 Re: OT Dial up Computer woes in reply to VAJerry, 08-09-2006 03:48:07  
As far as I know wild blue will not be avalible in your area till late fall when I called them they said the sats were full and they were getting another one up in the fall and would open the northeren us up again. I got mine from elitesat. I dont know what to tell you VAJERRY I dont think its worth it. If I did not have help paying from my step son who is on a hub and using it too it would not be worth it. JON

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VAJerry

08-09-2006 04:03:41




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 Re: OT Dial up Computer woes in reply to magman, 08-09-2006 03:52:09  
Right now I pay $22/mo for ISP and $35/ for phone line for unreliable connection at speeds of 35-45Kbps and get disconnected about once an hour. So costs won't be much higher and speeds cant get worse.



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magman

08-09-2006 03:45:09




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 Re: OT Dial up Computer woes in reply to Hugh MacKay, 08-09-2006 02:45:06  
well Hugh, Have you tred updating your drivers for the new modem? Our service my brother has a problem ands he calls and yells till they take half the moneyy off the bill. Any hoo about three months ago I went with Hughes net sat. I could not get wild blue. I was exstremly disatisfied with them. Down load speeds after 2:00 PM were about 300 to 500 kbs when I was paying for 1000 or better. Up load speeds were in the range of 16 to 32 kbs. I called and bit$% abouty 6 different times and said what am I paying $69,95 for professional and getting dial up speeds they said that the speeds were not guranteed.I thought about dropping them but they would charge me #300.00 to do that.they shut me down one day becuase I went over the fair download quota. Dont know how never did nothing more than normal. Then something happened I got a new emachines PC best one I could get. I dont know if they changed something or if the new PC did it or I finally got the speed soft ware downloaded right on the new PC but now most anytime I can get 1100 to 1200 kbs. Its still slow loading web pages in the afternoon or night but but better than before. Things like paypal with alot of cetificates to check still take a few min to open though. JON

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