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scotty

08-07-2006 10:24:30




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Im wondering if there is a way of testing the voltage regulator on my Super A ? I bought a new generator because the old one was frozen up. So I took the old voltage regulator off the old generator. It seems to be OK other than cleaning it up and painting. The coil and points look OK. And I guess that resistor is OK also.

I called the Case IH dealer and to replace would be $65 bucks, ouch, so Im hoping this one is OK. Any suggestions appreciated. The tractor is not running yet but should be soon.


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CNKS

08-07-2006 14:40:16




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 Re: Bob M or other elec guy..... in reply to scotty, 08-07-2006 10:24:30  
If you took it off the top of the generator it is a cutout relay, if it was attached below the generator it is a voltage regulator, unless someone has changed it.



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Brownie 45

08-07-2006 14:16:27




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 Re: Bob M or other elec guy..... in reply to scotty, 08-07-2006 10:24:30  
Polarize the generator if not already done, by momentarily touching the arm & bat terminals on the regulator with a jumper wire.



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scotty

08-07-2006 11:08:52




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 Re: Bob M or other elec guy..... in reply to scotty, 08-07-2006 10:24:30  
Thanks for the replies guys! I have some electrical tech guys st work that have that equipment.I will copy that procedure for them. All I have is a cheapo Sears voltmeter :"( If one of those guys arent too busy maybe they can check it out for me !

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scotty



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Bob M

08-07-2006 10:56:48




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 Re: Bob M or other elec guy..... in reply to scotty, 08-07-2006 10:24:30  
Scotty - There's a couple tests you can run on a voltage regulator depending on the equipment you have available.

If you have a variable DC power supply and an accurate voltmeter:

First disconnect all wiring at the voltage regulator and remove the regulator cover. Connect the power supply + to the VR base and the - to the VR "GEN" terminal. Then connect the voltmeter at the same two points or directly across the power supply terminals.

Now gradually increase the power supply voltage while watching the cutout relay contacts (the relay with it's contacts held OPEN at rest). The contacts should pull in (close) between 7.0 and 8.0 volts. Then continue to increase the voltage while watching the voltage regulator relay contacts (the relay with it's contacts held CLOSED at rest). The regulator relay contacts should begin to separate at about 8.5 volts.

Now gradually reduce the power supply voltage. The voltage regulator contacts should close again at about 8 volts. Then the cutout contacts should open as the voltage approaches about 5.0 volts.

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However if you have no power supply or voltmeter you can do this:

Install the regulator then observe the ammeter as you run the engine. It should show a few amps of discharge at idle. Then as engine speed is gradually increased the ammeter should suddenly jump to the right of 0 at about 1/3 throttle. Then as speed is increased to full throttle the ammeter should stabilize somewhere between 5 and 15 amps of charge - the actual rate depending on the state of charge of the battery.

Then slowing the engine back down the ammeter should swing back to the left of 0 as idle is approached. Finally when the engine is shut down it should swing briefly left to about -8 amps then settle immediately at 0.

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Hope this make sense!

Incidentally if you need a new one TISCO has voltage regulators for around $40. If you have a TISCO nearby I'd pay 'em a visit!

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scotty

08-07-2006 11:11:44




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 Re: Bob M or other elec guy..... in reply to Bob M, 08-07-2006 10:56:48  
Bob, BTW, I bought a new electrical harness and they gave me a new fuse holder for the instrument panel.With no fuse :"( Would you know what the proper fuse amperage is ?

Thanks,
scotty



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Bob M

08-07-2006 11:24:46




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 Re: Bob M or other elec guy..... in reply to scotty, 08-07-2006 11:11:44  
Scotty - The parts book calls for an SFE-20 (20 amp) fuse. But a 15 amp fuse works fine too.

Bob



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Nebraska Cowman

08-07-2006 10:31:52




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 Re: Bob M or other elec guy..... in reply to scotty, 08-07-2006 10:24:30  
can't hurt to try it. Those old regulators are pretty forgiving. And even if it don't regulate right you can ground the field wire to get it to full charge. Then if you run the tractor a lot you can uhook the wire part of the time so you don't overcharge the battery.

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