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Why no X1?

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Mike CA

08-07-2006 00:16:42




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I looked at the serial tag on the H I just bought. It's a '46, but there is no X1 after the serial number. Was that common?




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Janicholson

08-07-2006 17:21:34




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 Re: Why no X1? in reply to Mike CA, 08-07-2006 00:16:42  
Mike,
Run the X5 head, and fire dome pistons, it will be just the right compression for modern gasoline at your altitude. Jimn



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Keith-OR

08-07-2006 09:29:24




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 Re: Why no X1? in reply to Mike CA, 08-07-2006 00:16:42  
HEY Mike, did you see this on your thread about acquiring your H?

blg wrote----"i am glad for you .what part of ca do you live .have a lot of hand tools that i would let you have."

K & S



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Mike CA

08-07-2006 11:15:02




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 Re: Why no X1? in reply to Keith-OR, 08-07-2006 09:29:24  
I sure didn't! Let me skip back a few pages and go read! Thanks Keith! :D



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Mike CA

08-07-2006 07:55:58




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 Re: Why no X1? in reply to Mike CA, 08-07-2006 00:16:42  
Well I'll be ... So how will this affect my overhaul? Should I try to return it to it's original state, or rebuild it just like a regular X1? It needs a new hood, so I'm guessing I should look for one without the extra hole?



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RustyFarmall

08-07-2006 09:10:45




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 Re: Why no X1? in reply to Mike CA, 08-07-2006 07:55:58  
It will not affect your overhaul in the least. Just find the serial number of the engine, and then you will know how to buy the parts. The cylinder head for the distillate engine is different from the head for the gasoline engine. The distillate head is lower compression, and uses valves of a different length than the gasoline version, which is higher compression. You will find a part number, cast into the head, visible only after removing the valve cover. It is possible that the head is not original to the tractor, and may already have been replaced with the gasoline head, unless you are going for all out horsepower, the distillate head will serve you just fine. I'll need to look in the manual to find which part number is which, or, if you have your manuals, you can look it up. Those numbers will be in the parts manual.

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Mike CA

08-07-2006 11:14:18




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 Re: Why no X1? in reply to RustyFarmall, 08-07-2006 09:10:45  
I was going to order all my manuals in the next couple of days.

Rusty, do you think it would be smart to swap those parts? I'm buying a '44 X5 as a parts tractor, so I will have different parts out of it. Or I saw a piston and sleeve kit on Ebay.

But the cheapest path is probably the one I will follow.



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RustyFarmall

08-07-2006 14:56:22




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 Re: Why no X1? in reply to Mike CA, 08-07-2006 11:14:18  
Mike, be careful about where you buy your parts. eBay is a good place to find used parts, but quite a few of the people selling new parts don't really know if they are selling a quality product. they are out to make a sale, and really don't know anything about tractors or engines.



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Brad in WI

08-07-2006 11:26:17




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 Re: Why no X1? in reply to Mike CA, 08-07-2006 11:14:18  
Mike if you are going to rebuild a motor get new parts and check several different places for the best price. You don't want to have a nicely painted tractor with a oil burning motor covering the nice paint with oil soot. My motto is do it right the first time even if it costs a little bit more. Still cheaper than having to tear apart and fix it correct later. Brad



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Mike CA

08-07-2006 12:32:43




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 Re: Why no X1? in reply to Brad in WI, 08-07-2006 11:26:17  
That makes good sense Brad. I'll ask about what to replace when that time comes.



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CNKS

08-07-2006 06:05:18




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 Re: Why no X1? in reply to Mike CA, 08-07-2006 00:16:42  
Your tractor has/had either a kerosene or distillate engine. If the hood is original there should be a hole in it for the inlet to a small starting tank. Tank and shutters are probably long gone. Hard telling what has been done to your engine since it was built.



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RustyFarmall

08-07-2006 04:57:47




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 Re: Why no X1? in reply to Mike CA, 08-07-2006 00:16:42  
As you probably know, the X1 denotes an engine built at the factory that will run on gasoline, and was more or less of an option. The majority of the tractors of that year and earlier were designed to operate on distillate fuel, and did not have the X1 suffix. Distillate fuel has not been available for at least 40 years. The tractor you bought will run on gasoline just fine.



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