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Gary L. Lyons

07-25-2006 10:47:16




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I have an opportunity to purchase a McCormick Farmall 140, Sr.# 36137 J, that has been in the family several years. What Can some of you tell me about this tractor. I know very little about Farmalls. Also, is $1500 a good price for the tractor with bad tires, will run, does not smoke, and has disk, plow, and blade with it? It looks pretty rough but is all repairable.




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Rnicholas

07-25-2006 17:57:01




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 Re: McCormick Farmall Question in reply to Gary L. Lyons, 07-25-2006 10:47:16  
Watch the rear axle casting especially. If the tractor was abused (and some that weren't) you'll find welds most often where the axle housing bolts onto the side of the tractor. The breaks are usually on the top and easy to see. I remember helping my grandfather take one to a shop to get it welded and putting it back on in the middle of a field. What I can't remember is what happened to cause it to crack and why it was so severe that he wouldn't drive it home to repair.

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Hugh MacKay

07-25-2006 11:27:40




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 Re: McCormick Farmall Question in reply to Gary L. Lyons, 07-25-2006 10:47:16  
Gary: Two of the most costly items you can come across to replace are sheet metal and broken castings. Just to give you an example, the grill an front sheet metal around it will cost you as much as a piston and sleeve kit. Also if you don't find any welding on castings or front end, your raesonably sure the tractor hasn't been abused. I bought one 3 years ago, perfect sheet metal, excellent castings, good engine, hydraulics, transmission and final drives, with fast hitch 2 bottom plow and tandem disk, $1,000. Within a month I laid out $1,200. more for new rad, water pump, battery, complete charging system and some minor items. My tractor had been left half full of coolant 10 years in a heated warehouse. Water pump and rad above the coolant line were a mass of rust.

On my tractor, the vendor, couldn't and refused to try and get it running, and as far as I'm concerned not running is a parts tractor.

Now, bear in mind 140s especially one with 04-06 style grill, command good prices. They hold their value well. You just mull this all over in your mind and you decide if the price is good. I'd try for less, however it is family and they know there are folks out there who will pay $1,500. You are also family, so why not try $1,500. less 15% of all parts you have buy, to put it in good working order.

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Mike CA

07-25-2006 13:05:05




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 Re: McCormick Farmall Question in reply to Hugh MacKay, 07-25-2006 11:27:40  
ok, here is a completely new guy question... What is a casting?



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Mike CA

07-25-2006 13:50:36




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 Re: McCormick Farmall Question in reply to Mike CA, 07-25-2006 13:05:05  
Much obliged to you both!



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Janicholson

07-25-2006 13:33:08




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 Re: McCormick Farmall Question in reply to Mike CA, 07-25-2006 13:05:05  
A casting is a component that is made in a mold by pouring hot metal into the mold and letting it cool to solid. Most farmalls are constructed from castings (grey cast iron) The only parts of the structure (on an H cause I know you are interested in them) is the front frame rails which are channel iron (rolled to shape when red hot, not molten. The engine block and head, waterpump, torque tube (clutch housint to trans tunnel, transmission housing, final drive housing, tranny cover/platform and rear axle housings are all cast grey iron.
on an airplane there is limited use of iron. aluminum and magnesium are both often cast. Fuel injection regulator systems on military craft are often castings. If they are grainy looking on the outside, they are usually made in sand molds. if shiny and smooth, they are called diecast. diecasting uses a permanent reused mold to contain the melted metal. I hope this clears up the definition of casting (metals). Plastics can also be cast from liquid into solid in molds. JimN

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RustyFarmall

07-25-2006 13:22:35




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 Re: McCormick Farmall Question in reply to Mike CA, 07-25-2006 13:05:05  
A casting is any part of a tractor that is made of cast iron. Axle housings, rear end/transmission housing, engine block, front bolster, etc. You won't usually find any broken castings on an H or M, I say usually, there are exceptions. The smaller tractors did have some problems with the castings breaking--usually due to abuse.



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