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Farmall A front end stuck

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Kopeck

07-15-2006 06:19:37




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Any tips on getting that blasted adjustable front end unstuck? The left side just won budge. I'm thinking about try a farm jack, or I saw Allen use some chain + a tractor and pull one apart. Trick here is that it's still on the tractor...

K




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Brownie 45

07-16-2006 04:27:58




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 Re: Farmall A front end stuck in reply to Kopeck, 07-15-2006 06:19:37  
Better go with Hugh's method.



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Hugh MacKay

07-15-2006 15:13:56




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 Re: Farmall A front end stuck in reply to Kopeck, 07-15-2006 06:19:37  
Kopeck: I wouldn't use too much in the way of pulling devices, that Farmall A axle is not heavy like the big ones. You can break the spindle housing off at the top end.

Go with heat, it may take 2 acetylene torches. A friend and I heated one until the outside tube was completely red. We hung it from the ceiling, heated half the tube and used a 6x6 softwood block and 4 lb. hammer for tapping on spindle housing. We were sure we destroyed the center tube with that much heat, however it was toast anyhow. Owner said either we fix it or he was off to the scrap yard.

After we got it apart, we sanded and painted the telescoping tubes with graphite. That was close to 14 years ago and the tractor is still going and being used commercially with cultivators and side dresser. After you get the tubes apart, let the parts cool in the air as opposed to water.

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kopeck

07-15-2006 19:33:05




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 Re: Farmall A front end stuck in reply to Hugh MacKay, 07-15-2006 15:13:56  
A friend and I tried to use a farm jack figuring that that we would "feel" any issues before they happened.

Anyway, we didn't get it to budge. The friend is going to bring his torches and we're going to go that route.

I've got the thing to the point where we could probably take the axle off.

fire and a hammer I guess.

K



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Hugh MacKay

07-15-2006 20:01:54




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 Re: Farmall A front end stuck in reply to kopeck, 07-15-2006 19:33:05  
Kopeck: We just did half or one end of center tube at a time and found it took two torches to get it red hot. I just remembered after hanging it from ceiling, we hung about 50 lbs on the lower section we were trying to remove. This particular axle was the worst I've ever seen, it had a layer of rust between the tubes.

My friend has done another one since, and told me he built a box trough, filled it with used hydraulic oil and submerged the axle tubes in that for 6 months. In that case he had a spare axle from a parts tractor the owner used while the soaking took place. It worked well but he didn't think it was as bad to begin with as the earlier one.

I jumped in here as I knew of two cases where folks had snapped a spindle housing off from pulling and or jacking.

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Brownie 45

07-15-2006 14:37:11




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 Re: Farmall A front end stuck in reply to Kopeck, 07-15-2006 06:19:37  
If you have two other tractors & a 2- way hydraulic cylinder, use log chains on the axle ends & hook one end to one tractor drawbar, & the other to one end of the cylinder. Extend the cylinder fully & hook the other end of the cylinder to tractor # 2 drawbar. Retract the cylinder slowly in small steps, watching for any problems with chains or other attaching parts getting out of shape. A little light tapping with a 10 lb. sledge will help. Use common sense when applying pressure. A 4" cylnder or larger will work best. We have used this method to pull rusted PTO shafts & other"sleeved" shafts apart.

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scotty

07-15-2006 06:59:07




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 Re: Farmall A front end stuck in reply to Kopeck, 07-15-2006 06:19:37  
Mornin Kopeck, I had a tough time getting my Super A unstuck !!! I would suggest removing it from the tractor and standing it on end. Then get some PB Blaster or other lubricant and just keep pouring some in between the tubes every time you walk by. Do that for awhile and then make yourself some hardwood blocks with the same size radius as the spindles and jack it apart or rap it with a sledge along with some heat, it will come its just a pain in the a$$


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kopeck

07-15-2006 09:35:12




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 Re: Farmall A front end stuck in reply to scotty, 07-15-2006 06:59:07  
I have been soaking it for a week or so now.

Correct me if I'm wrong but when the pin is out the axle should be able to swing forward and aft right?

That is it's not keys in any way.

Matt



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pgo12

07-15-2006 06:39:50




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 Re: Farmall A front end stuck in reply to Kopeck, 07-15-2006 06:19:37  
try some pb blaster or penetrating oil in the holes and let it soak awhile. or some slow heat on it. pg



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