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any spacers used when mounting a factory wide fron

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Paul G. in Mn

07-12-2006 18:22:53




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I am mounting a factory wide front on my early 39 M and wondering if there was a spacer used when bolting the turning arm to the boster shaft? If so what was it like? 3 or 4 bolt holes and how thick?




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Dave Slater

07-13-2006 06:04:53




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 Re: any spacers used when mounting a factory wide in reply to Paul G. in Mn, 07-12-2006 18:22:53  
If you have early original wide front with tie rods out front.The steering arm bolted to vertical steering shaft with 3 bolts and no spacers. There was 2 different part numbers used on early ones.The washers other fellows are refering to go on inside of frame rails where rear support bolts up on some wide fronts.My mistake if steering arm is not the part ask about.



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JD Humm

07-13-2006 03:18:12




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 Re: any spacers used when mounting a factory wide in reply to Paul G. in Mn, 07-12-2006 18:22:53  
Those are common washers, believe it or not. We get them at work all the time for bolting elevator guide rail brackets to I beams plus other applications. We call them "hillsides" and we have had them in all sizes, from 3/8 up to 3/4 inch hole diameter, depending on what application we are using them for. I have handfuls of them out in my work van, left overs from jobs. They usually send us out way more than we need with each installation.

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Allan In NE

07-12-2006 18:41:55




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 Re: any spacers used when mounting a factory wide in reply to Paul G. in Mn, 07-12-2006 18:22:53  
Paul,

The bolts are 1/2" X roughly 3", fine thread; three of 'em, no spacers.

There are two wedges that go between the bolt heads and the frame rails on the two stabilizer arms. Thick part goes to the inside of the tractor so that the bolt will load straight down instead of crooked because of the "thick/narrow" build of the rail.

Allan



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Paul G. in Mn

07-12-2006 18:54:22




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 Re: any spacers used when mounting a factory wide in reply to Allan In NE, 07-12-2006 18:41:55  
are these wedges something that can be made? Any rough dementions on them? I have never seen them so no idea what they would look like. Thanks Paul



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Allan In NE

07-12-2006 19:03:05




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 Re: any spacers used when mounting a factory wide in reply to Paul G. in Mn, 07-12-2006 18:54:22  
Paul,

They are just the "reverse" of that inside rail angle.

Like KB says, every blessed IH in the world with a wide front uses 'em and I wouldn't doubt it but what IH carries them.

'Bout an inch square with the bolt-hole drilled thru it's center.

Allan



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K.B.-826

07-12-2006 21:45:13




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 Re: any spacers used when mounting a factory wide in reply to Allan In NE, 07-12-2006 19:03:05  
If those wedges are the same part number as the 06-56 series ones are, Case-IH dealer will be able to get them. Even if they are not exactly the same by part number, I'd bet that the 06-56 series wedges would work on an M. Better than nothin'.



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Paul G. in Mn

07-12-2006 19:07:12




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 Re: any spacers used when mounting a factory wide in reply to Allan In NE, 07-12-2006 19:03:05  
Thanks Allan, Ill check into it



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K.B.-826

07-12-2006 18:51:27




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 Re: any spacers used when mounting a factory wide in reply to Allan In NE, 07-12-2006 18:41:55  
Good point on those wedges, Allan. Those are the most overlooked item when switching from narrow to wide, and they're used on just about every IH tractor. Those bolts will not stay tight without them.



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JD Humm

07-13-2006 18:36:50




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 Re: any spacers used when mounting a factory wide in reply to K.B.-826, 07-12-2006 18:51:27  
Will not stay tight and more apt to break, all the force is applied to one edge or corner of the hex bolt head. Those are not a special made part, any large fastner supply company should have them. We use them all the time at work.



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