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Allan In NE

07-06-2006 06:00:20




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Morning Guys,

I'm seriously looking at a 1977 1486 with 73XX hours. Darned tractor is just pretty straight and clean.

Seat is torn a bit and the plastic grill is cracked but otherwise the tractor seems straight as a pin with very good radial tires, dual PTO and triple hydraulics. Not a leak in it anywhere.

I have no experience with the 86 series; just know nothing about 'em. Are there any big boogie-man items I should look at 'cause they are asking a heifty premium price for this tractor. Comes with a full weight rack and a set of duals.

Looks kinda like this one only a little cleaner.

Thanks,

Allan

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ejr-IA.

07-06-2006 10:04:20




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 Re: Tractor Vet or Somebody in reply to Allan In NE, 07-06-2006 06:00:20  
Had a 1086 for a few years I agree with the vet the ride was really bad and the shift levers for getting in and out sucked.Make sure the cab mounts are good or you will have the jumpiest clutch you ever seen.Front and side vision are good but out the rear for hooking up is bad.Their defently quieter than the 66 tractors.I have had a bad back for years had to get rid of the 86 went to Deere on the big tractors but still have my 60 06 series.

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the tractor vet

07-06-2006 06:54:12




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 Re: Tractor Vet or Somebody in reply to Allan In NE, 07-06-2006 06:00:20  
Well the only things i can think of is always listen to the rear end for unusal noises as for some reason when ya get past the 10"s seams like they have more rearend problems . and ya know on the T/A"s . Cab mounts, the hyd. system"s if it is a PFC system have give some problems and IMOP a pain in the donkey buut maybe that is because i never had the proper equipment to work on them . I know one thing i would change wright off the get go if it was mine , Oh yea i do have one of them as i have a 1486 that i need to get to fixen one of these day and this is one thing i am going to change is the stupid STEPS . Now also make sure that the A/C is working because the way that cab is layed out and the way the windows open ya get no air movement . Looks like that one is like mine with the 20.8"s on the back . Oh yea if ya get it one thing to remember is don"t have the side winder open next to trees as if they catch a branch it will take a month to clean the glass out of the cab , first hand experance on that one . THe only other thing i can think of is that they seam to be a bit rougher ride then the 66 seires because ya set ahead of the back axel. And as for a price anywhere from 6500-14500 depending on what all has been done to it and when the work was done and at 7500 hours it may be due for everything . Oh yea alos on the ones that i have worked on over the years i have found that the speed transmission gears realy get woren bad and about all of them that i have put T/A" In i have had to replace ALL the gears and sometimes both shafts. So run it anround and listen for unusual noises with the back window and side winder open as the cab will deaden alot of the noise , here again this is first hand experance talken learned this the hard way on mine and i did run it around but had the cab closed up and did not hear the noise in the transmission and did not hear the miss in the engine or fell the miss the cam was wiped out i knew it needed a T/A and was not concerned about that . But when i opened it up and found that all the gears were rounded over and the shafts were toaste and the neighbor heard the miss before i did after i got it home my good deal turned into a nightmare .

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IaGary

07-06-2006 06:16:05




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 Re: Tractor Vet or Somebody in reply to Allan In NE, 07-06-2006 06:00:20  
Allan

About the only thing differant than the 66 series to look for is to check out the AC.

Check to see if it is cold, has it been changed to the 134 freon,is it dry around the compressor and if the blower works.

Otherwise you know the rest of the tractor.

One other thing that I've had problems with but not many others is shift getting loose,but I do a lot of shifting on the baler.(forward to reverse on baler)

Gary

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Allan In NE

07-06-2006 06:29:23




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 Re: Tractor Vet or Somebody in reply to IaGary, 07-06-2006 06:16:05  
Thanks Gary,

Heat and air work just fine. Shift seems really nice and tight. There is no wear showing at the drawbar. All the hydraulic outlet dust caps are in place and I see no evidence of it ever having a loader attached. The steering linkage is good and tight.

However, when I looked at it yesterday, the tractor was shut off and I noticed that the 3-point hitch was down but yet the lever was in the up position.

This concerns me. Are they the same hydraulics as the 66s?

Allan

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Hugh MacKay

07-07-2006 03:04:30




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 Re: Tractor Vet or Somebody in reply to Allan In NE, 07-06-2006 06:29:23  
Allan: I wouldn't get too awfully concerned about the 3 point being down with lever in up position. My 1066 did that from the day it was new, never got any worse and it saw a lot of hours, 10,000 in the first 8 years.

Two complaints I've heard about 86 series are rough from operator being moved forward and a lot of folks had problems with shift linkage. A couple of 86 series tractors I have operated needed transmission brake adjusted. I always suspected that had more to do with hard shifting than the linkage. Then there are those folks that have to be shifting all the time, they didn't realize the Farmall had enough torque to run in the same gear all day using TA ocasionally.

I had a farmer friend, had an 886 and one of the first CaseIH, actually a Case painted red. Forget the model number but it had 360 Cummins and supposedly rated about same as 886. I operated both on an 18' disk and he asked me to compare. I said' "it's good that the Case has 3 power shifts, as it has no torque. The Farmall would hike that disk along at 4 to 5 mph and never look at TA unless you wanted to slow down. In the same field with Case you hardly dared take hand off the power shift lever.

On the roughness, I've never operated an 86 series long enough to experience this. I sometimes wonder if those folks may have had 60 lbs. air in front tires. and maybe excess in rear as well.

If you going to be farming half of Western Nebraska, why not go out and buy yourself a real tractor, go articulated. Having had the experience of 1066, I'd never buy another two wheel drive tractor over 100 hp, or even conventional 4x4. These articulateds are smooth, they are very manuverable and traction plus with no added weight other than enough to balance load on both rear ends. Very important that each axle has about 50% of load with that kind of hp

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IaGary

07-06-2006 06:38:15




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 Re: Tractor Vet or Somebody in reply to Allan In NE, 07-06-2006 06:29:23  
Yes Allan the hydraulics on a '77 are the same.

They changed the system in the '81 models.

Got one of each and don't know which system I like better.

Gary



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