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Michael Soldan

07-05-2006 13:08:11




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Welp, somebody nailed a skunk on our street last night and as close as I can figure it would be all of 40 feet from our bedroom window. It was there this morning and I hoped the town works dept would pick it up but it didn't happen, so when I got home from the farm I got a large yard refuse garbage bag and a disposable plastic glove and bagged the critter, its now in our garbage pail until morning whereupon I will yake it to the farm and dispose of it. You'd wonder how a critter's scent could make such a stench. We have a lot of critters in town, racoons, skunks. squirrels and one moon lit night in the winter I looked out to see two coyotes trotting down the street. I get pissed at people who feed birds, squirrels, toss dread out on their lawn, it just invites other undesirable critters, obviously its the food that brings animals in close proximity to humans. I have a recipe for skunks and coons that won't bother cats or dogs , only problem is the critter don't get much more'n 20 feet from the recipe, then you gotta clean it up..... Mike in Exeter Ontario

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maddmatt

07-06-2006 17:04:10




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 Re: Skunked in reply to Michael Soldan, 07-05-2006 13:08:11  
There is nothing I like better than the derelict horse guy down the road dog out side my bedroom window fightin' with a pack of coons or fixin sheet metal on my vehicles from all the GD deer ! posums, coons deer ,ground hogs neighbors dogs and cats pratice the two S's shoot and shut up and play dumb if any one asks the buzzards eat real good around here MM



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Tom Windsor

07-05-2006 20:06:14




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 Re: Time out in reply to Michael Soldan, 07-05-2006 13:08:11  
We all have our problems...its the deer here...but, we should have a time out here and move on.

TW



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FromJB2

07-05-2006 19:01:30




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 Re: Skunked in reply to Michael Soldan, 07-05-2006 13:08:11  
I am with you Michael, my Dad's farm was on the corner of two county roads that were heavily used by city folks to travel to their summer cottages, so used to get lots of kittens and cats dropped along the road.
Now it is the Ministry of Natural Resources capturing nuisance bears around towns and cities and dumping them in the area. Can't grow silage corn anymore. Can grow it but the bears have it all smashed down by harvest time.

My 2 cents
JB2

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Rnicholas

07-05-2006 18:24:52




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 Re: Skunked in reply to Michael Soldan, 07-05-2006 13:08:11  
Don't know about you guys but it's been my experience that people I've known who were radical about killing animals always seemed to care more about animals than other people. In my book, the person that cares less about his neighbor next door than the animals in the neighbors yard is disqualified from staking out any moral high ground.



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Hugh MacKay

07-05-2006 14:33:58




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 Re: Skunked in reply to Michael Soldan, 07-05-2006 13:08:11  
Michael: Racoons put my electrical power out last night. I have a transformer pole in my yard. From the window I could see arcing and what sounded like electric welding and out went the lights. I fumbled around found my flashlight. Two of the three wires coming from transformer pole to the house were crossed and two racoons still on top of pole cross bars. I think there must have been a 3rd one that fell striking one of the 3 wires just below the transformer and going to the house. That must have flipped that wire over the other. I say he must have only hit one wire, as I didn't have any dead and fried racoon for breakfast.

I called Hydro, then went to bed. When I awoke at 4 am, lights were back on. I suppose the Hydro guys may have wanted the racoon for breakfast, never thought of that. I haven't talked to them since. My good better half is all wrapped up in this world cup soccer, glad there wasn't a game on. She was in bed and I was having my last look of the day at YT when this happened. Computer scolded me this morning for not shutting it down properly. For me,I had probably had said enough on YT for the day anyhow.

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Farmall Frank

07-05-2006 14:00:07




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 Re: Skunked in reply to Michael Soldan, 07-05-2006 13:08:11  
I thought this was a site for discussions about tractor stuff, and not the heartless distruction of wild animals. There are a lot of people on this site that don't appreciate your actions, and you ought to keep your little killing games to yourself, or better yet, not do them.



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Michael Soldan

07-05-2006 17:23:37




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 Re: Skunked in reply to Farmall Frank, 07-05-2006 14:00:07  
Farmall Frank, you obviously don't farm, if you did you would know that there is a time to kill and a time to not kill. It is not heartless, I do not need rabid racoons living in my haymow mere yards from my calves and cattle, I do not need skunks and stray cats bringing disease into my barn, rabies and distemper,scabies and a host of other diseases carried by wild animals.I have seen acres of corn destroyed by racoons in a matter of a few nights, there must be some control over this pestulence, however I take no joy in having to rid my barn of racoons and other pests, however I take great pride in caring for my cattle and my calves as well as the many cats I keep around the barn. It is interesting that you can judge me for suggesting a way to rid pestulence while knowing nothing of the effort and energy that I expend in a day caring for the animals that make up my farm. I am afraid that it is people like you that have caused this rise in animal problems, the do gooders and bleeding hearts that are against wearing fur..years ago racoons were harvested for their pelts, now with no harvest they lay dead on the highway every morning by the hundreds in any township or county, yes Frank you are the man..the do gooder that has created more problems than you are worth while you know not...Mike in Exeter Ontario

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Farmall Frank

07-06-2006 06:01:25




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 Re: Skinned in reply to Michael Soldan, 07-05-2006 17:23:37  
Let me just say this, then I will depart this site since so many of you think I am a bleeding heart. I admit, I have become more that way over time.

I do run a farm and did and do work it (lesser extent now), but it is only a crop farm. Have never owned livestock, so I have no idea what you folks face with wildlife invading your operations. For that I apologize for being ignorant to those concerns. I have noticed that many farmers have no hesitation toward similar actions you take --- seems like there should be a better way, but what do I know.

Like you folks, I have seen many a cat and dog abandoned on my property, and I absolutely wish I could nuke those that leave them. I used to shoot them (not the people), just like you. Recently, as I aged and started getting more of a "bleeding heart", I have either adopted them, find someone that will take them, or take them to the a shelter if I can capture them, where they might have a chance. I refuse to shoot them.

I think one of the reasons you see so many dead animals on the road is increased human population, more cars, driving faster, etc. I guess what brought this on and what is bothering me more and more these days is the increasing onslaught of population growth, the competition and destruction it brings with anything living, and the future of our world. That's why I jumped on this thread. I should have just let it go. If you haven't noticed, this old world is hurting, and it is all due to us. I think we will be feeling that pinch more and more in the future. I'm glad I old.

I do want to thank most of you (you too, Hugh) for the very valuable help you have given concerning tractor repair, plows, etc. Again, sorry to ruffle feathers (but I'm still right -- haha).

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Hugh MacKay

07-06-2006 19:54:39




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 Re: Skinned in reply to Farmall Frank, 07-06-2006 06:01:25  
Frank: I've just read what Andy and Mike had to say, please heed their advice. Like you I've never enjoyed putting down critters, however there are some good reasons for doing so. There are a few folks that responded to this thread don't know the difference between good and poor reasons.

From the tractor and combine seat I've seen a good many diseased little animals. I remember one fall in particular foxes in our area had distemper. They were in such bad shape they'd hardly get out range on the combine reel. Over population, will do a species in just about every time. Just 4 years ago, rabbits in this area were everywhere in excessive numbers. This spring you don't see a rabbit anywhere. I suspect disease had more to do with the rabbit's demise than coyotes. Man better be careful, he's already treading on thin ice.

My good wife was a city girl. Near our farm, way back then, lived an older dairy farmer, rough and tumble, chewed tobacco. We also being dairy farmers were quite well acquainted with this guy. At the time the dairy industry was introducing a whole list of new regulations, much of it to do with clean barns. Our friend whitewashed his walls but refused on barn ceiling, he also refused to sweep down the cobwebs from ceiling, and further refused to install screen doors on his milk room. His argument, a good healthy population of spiders, were far more effective in controling flies, than by any other means. My wife saw this very quickly, he had fewer flies in his dairy barn than any other barn in the county. Bear in mind this gal is a professionally trained home economist.

We've now been married 41 years, I am not allowed to kill a spider in the house. There are spots in the house she allows spiders to thrive. If a spider becomes a niusance she will relocate him. By the way, spiders are allowed on our kitchen windows. Periodically she will point out all the dead house flies in her very much protected spider webs. This is just one very small example how preditors can be beneficial. Man must learn do far better at co-habiting this earth with critters large and small. He also better take a look at plant life. If he doesn't look after the plant life, maybe he best learn how to survive without oxygen.

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Paul in Mich

07-06-2006 21:53:22




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 Re: Skinned in reply to Hugh MacKay, 07-06-2006 19:54:39  
Hugh,
I thought I was wacky, and the Missus eagerly confirmed it when I would not kill a spider. I like your wife, will take a spider outside, talking to him or her every step of the way. The rest of the family is scared to death of them, and can"t understand my fascination for them, but I think spiders are incredible little creatures, and I agree that they keep the fly population under control.

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Michael Soldan

07-06-2006 16:57:27




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 Re: Skinned in reply to Farmall Frank, 07-06-2006 06:01:25  
Frank, think of us as a bunch of friends having coffee together and someone mentions getting rid of racoons or the like, we have a round the table discussion and some think one way, some think the other, but when the discussion is over we are still friends..I don't want you to leave our forum, we disagreed but I respect your opinion, I am sure you are a kind hearted person who is well meaning. I don't enjoy killing any animal, it bothers me to do it and I wish I didn't have to but the barn and the cattle are my first priority. Please stay on our forum and feel free to e-mail me, my mail is open. We need everybody and their opinions and we need yours. Do you realize the entertainment we all had in this discussion last night...I'd buy the coffee if we were alltogether so stick around Frank you are a valuable poster and all this diversity makes our forum so great...Mike in Exeter Ontario

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Andy Martin

07-06-2006 15:54:28




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 Re: Skinned in reply to Farmall Frank, 07-06-2006 06:01:25  
Just don't exit the site. Each one is entitled to their opinion, and you may have been in the minority on this off-topic subject, but the minority is still welcome in this country and it will only be free as long as the minority is welcome.

Your opinion got beat up pretty good but it was not a personal attack, in my mind.

Please hang around and let each one prove they are still just as friendly and helpful and need your help as well.

You are a part of this community whether you choose to participate or not, and it will be the loss to all if you choose not to participate.

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Brent in IA

07-06-2006 04:21:41




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 Re: Skunked in reply to Michael Soldan, 07-05-2006 17:23:37  
Good for you Michael, you said what we were all thinking! Hope you have a great day and take care of them critters!



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Jimmy King

07-06-2006 01:40:30




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 Re: Skunked in reply to Michael Soldan, 07-05-2006 17:23:37  
Very well said Michael, I think you said it all and I have nothing to add. Jim



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Levi K

07-05-2006 20:18:21




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 Re: Skunked in reply to Michael Soldan, 07-05-2006 17:23:37  
Good job Mike, don't feel bad for sayin that, I tell you what, everytime I see a groundhog, coon, possum, whatever- it meets the end of the 410, I have killed off so many grounghogs it ain't even funny. All those things do is go under the drags in the crib and eat the shell corn and $H|T!!! I have layed flat on my stomach, in that crap, trying to clean the drags out to get them to run. Them they burrow under the other crib and have made the foundation weak. So yeah Frank, I will play my "litte killing games". I hope that's not too harsh mike, I had to get my opinion in there.

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Hugh MacKay

07-05-2006 18:54:39




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 Re: Skunked in reply to Michael Soldan, 07-05-2006 17:23:37  
Michael: Well said, at this minute I am waiting for those damn racoons to return tonight. I have my trusty white cat sitting on the step just outside the door. She will hiss at the sight of them.



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Michael Soldan

07-05-2006 20:00:00




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 Re: Skunked in reply to Hugh MacKay, 07-05-2006 18:54:39  
Welp, sounds like ya got a good coon alarm there, them coons are a problem, I'll bet Hydro One guys can tell some stories about the damage they can cause in rural areas. The Ontario government cancelling the annual spring bear hunt two years ago to please all the bleeding hearts is now paying thousands of dollars a day in animal control to deal with maurading bears in cottage country and northern Ontario towns and cities...a bright decision that hunters and farmers had warned against. That other post about not growing corn because of bears says it all. I killed 27 racoons last year, all in and around my barn, killed 42 around the perimeter of the corn fields...no I don't enjoy killing animals, never have but it is something that has to be done on a farm and some of our friends on YT don't seem to understand . Crystal fly bait in a pie tin covered with Pepsi will end the coon problem, they die quickly, suffer little, cats won't touch it because of the sweetness. Works on skunks and Oppossums as well. When it comes to my cattle there isn't going to be any varmits carrying disease around my barn. Maybe you should know where the flashlight is and maybe have a lantern handy just in case you have another Bar B Que tonight on the pole....MIKE

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Hugh MacKay

07-05-2006 20:20:27




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 Re: Skunked in reply to Michael Soldan, 07-05-2006 20:00:00  
Mike: 11:25 pm and lights still on, cat is still sitting on the railing. I'm tired waiting and going to bed.



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Andy Martin

07-05-2006 15:07:22




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 Re: Skunked in reply to Farmall Frank, 07-05-2006 14:00:07  
Let's be frank, Frank.

A lot of us live out in the country and regularly have to kill dogs, puppies, cats, and kittens that good-hearted town folk bring out to starve because they don't have the decency to put them to death themselves. The country dogs won't let them near the feed and they are too slow to catch anything on their own. Most of them get killed right where they are dumped, waiting on the nice family to come back and get them. they wait in the road and get run over. Others wander and starve to death. It hurts me to kill them but it is the kind thing to do and I do it. We've got one corner that is so prone to having animals dumped I want to put up a sign: "Dump your pet here, I'll kill him for your."

Killing coyotes, skunks, armadillos, snakes and people who dump their pets in the country does not bother me one bit.

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Illinois Boy

07-05-2006 14:47:01




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 Re: Skunked in reply to Farmall Frank, 07-05-2006 14:00:07  
Farmall Frank,
Your bleeding heart makes me cry...
I also "heartlessly" destroyed a colony of termites this spring, and I kill wasps, hornets, and weasels that get after my chickens.



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City-Boy McCoy

07-05-2006 13:50:57




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 Re: Skunked in reply to Michael Soldan, 07-05-2006 13:08:11  
Critters, critters, critters! Our lives are full of critters. I seen a "critter" down there at the topless bar one night a few months ago, and my wife caught me and said, "You done seen that particular type critter fo' the last time! Now, let's get to the farm."
And we did. Been here ever since. And that is how I started liking Farmall Super A's and why my handle is "City-Boy McCoy".
Mike



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RustyFarmall

07-05-2006 13:22:49




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 Re: Skunked in reply to Michael Soldan, 07-05-2006 13:08:11  
The coyotes are so thick around here they will wake you up at night with their yipping and howling. Used to be a bounty on those critters, might be time to put it on again.



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Illinois Boy

07-05-2006 13:32:05




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 Re: Skunked in reply to RustyFarmall, 07-05-2006 13:22:49  
I here ya' Rusty... My neighbor had a cow die last winter, so he pulled it up to within about 200 yards of his house. We set in his kitchen and, over the course of three days, killed a total of 26 coyotes shoot'n out the window, using the sill for a rest before his wife had enough and ran us off. (Had to be real easy raisiing the window!)



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newpuller

07-06-2006 12:44:52




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 Re: Skunked in reply to Illinois Boy, 07-05-2006 13:32:05  
Now thats comical.



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