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What if, (wiring swtich)

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Levi K

06-23-2006 19:40:41




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puttin the new harness on the 300 and what would happen since we have to run a wire from the input side of the annmeter to the ignition switch- what i'm sayin what would happen if we got that wire on the output side of the anemeter? Also, what mistakes would have to be done accidentially fry the harness since Dad isn't confident in me.




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Janicholson

06-25-2006 07:10:18




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 Re: What if, (wiring swtich) in reply to Levi K, 06-23-2006 19:40:41  
I would not use a battery cabel at the battery to check for sparks, do it at the other end of that cable where it attaches to the starter switch. Sparks and batteries are explosive.
JimN



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CNKS

06-24-2006 08:57:42




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 Re: What if, (wiring swtich) in reply to Levi K, 06-23-2006 19:40:41  
I always tell people that the wiring diagram is in the Operators manual -- that makes it foolproof, unless you have converted to a 12 volt with alternator, etc. On the letter series, if you connect the ammeter wire to the wrong side of the starter switch, the tractor runs only with the starter switch engaged. I don't have a 300, so I'm not sure of that one.



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John T

06-23-2006 21:38:24




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 Re: What if, (wiring swtich) in reply to Levi K, 06-23-2006 19:40:41  
Levi, an Ammeter is almost like a dead short circuit, an "Ideal" Ammeter would be ZERO ohms across it, but they cant make em that good lol. Its basically a pass through current measuring device, not so much of a voltage device.

Typically, the SUPPLY terminal has BUT ONE wire (cigarette lighter may be an exception) and thats the main hot battery voltage feed source, often via a wire to the starter switch where the big hot ungrounded battery cable is attached. Its other LOAD terminal is what supplies voltage to loads like lights and ignition PLUS it wires to the gennys output (via a cutout relay) so the genny can get to and charge the battery by pumping current into it through the ammeter.

Its important that the SUPPLY terminal wire to the battery/starter BUTTTTT TTTTT alllll lll loads PLUS the gennys output wire to its other LOAD terminal. If you wired a load over on its SUPPLY terminal, it would still obviously work (theres hot battery voltage present there remember) BUTTTTT its current wouldnt be passing through the ammeter so it wouldnt register its use. For the ammeter to correctly read the net current into (charging) or out of (discharging) the battery, the battery needs to be on one side and the loads and the gennys output over on the other side.

So the loads will work if wired on the wrong or either side of the ammeter, but for the ammeter to accurately register net current into or out of the battery, it must be wired as I described.

If its wired in reverse it will still register, just bass ackwards lol.

Hope this helps, best wishes n God Bless

John T

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JJK

06-23-2006 20:26:05




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 Re: What if, (wiring swtich) in reply to Levi K, 06-23-2006 19:40:41  
Well if there isn't any confidence its best to be as carefull as one can be. Leave the battery disconnected until your ready to check your work. With the key off touch the ground cable to the frame and if there are no sparks then turn the key on and check again. There will be some spark there as you will be energizing the coil, guages, etc. but if there is a lot of spark then there might be something grounding out that shouldn't be. As far as the ampmeter goes they are hooked up inline of a wire (not power to ground for example) and if its hooked up backwards it probobly won't read right. So as long as you have a book that shows how to wire it up you shouldn't have a problem as long as you know how to read a wire schematic.

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