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farmall 666 w/ hydro trans lurching ???

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maplehillfrm,pat

06-03-2006 09:05:28




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hello all, I have just obtained a farmall 666, the engine runs great on this machine, the hydraulic 3 point works great, as does the 4 remote hydraulic ports,, my problem is the hydro transmission, I bought this knowing there was a problem, I got her home started it up and put it in forward{left hand lever}then put it in gear sellector? {right hand lever} it started to move a bit then started shuttering, same in reverse,,it seemed to move a little more if the PS was turned all the way to stop, , is there and "easy" {haha} way to test what side of the hydro is bad, and if it is worth repairing {lucky if it would just be filters, the fluid looks good, but the filters dont look to be changed}I would like to fix it before parting , but I aint sinking a bunch of money into here either thanks for the help, I have a book, but cant find it right now, but it wouldnt help with my question untill I find out what ports to check, I think, thansk pat

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Allan In NE

06-03-2006 15:22:55




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 Re: farmall 666 w/ hydro trans lurching ??? in reply to maplehillfrm,pat, 06-03-2006 09:05:28  
Pat,

The steering, hydraulics and the hitch don't have a thing to due with your tranny. Completely separate systems.

Make darned sure there is enough fluid and that the filter is not plugged (screw on filter laying on it's side on the left hand side of the tractor).

Also, there is a needle valve affair on that "clutch". Make darned sure it is closing all the way. It won't pull an inch if it is leaking any at all.

Put the right hand lever forward (low range) and see if it will move. If it won't move at all, post back and I'll show you how to find out where the problem lies.

Hope ya get it figured out,

Allan

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maplehillfrm,pat

06-03-2006 22:19:17




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 Re: farmall 666 w/ hydro trans lurching ??? in reply to Allan In NE, 06-03-2006 15:22:55  
thanks allen, I will check the filter, and the fluid, are there 2 filters on this unit?? I wont get a filter til monday though as TSC has nothing around here tractor related, I may have to go to napa, or 30 miles to the IH dealer, I will post back what I find, thanks I know when I first tried it in that gear it only moved a few feet , but I will try againa nd post back,thansk ,, probably should change filter first, I knw there is a screw on , on the left side is there also another one on the right side lower {or am I thinking of my 454?}like a canister?pat

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Allan In NE

06-04-2006 05:50:30




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 Re: farmall 666 w/ hydro trans lurching ??? in reply to maplehillfrm,pat, 06-03-2006 22:19:17  
Pat,

Replace both filters; the spin on, on the left side of the tractor and the round one inside the cover on the right.

If the tractor will "move" any at all, there is hope, although we might start to see some money spent in valves, regulators, etc.

I honestly believe that 90% of hydro repairs are done needlessly by a lot of shops; they throw in a new transmission 'cause they really don't understand how they work. The units just simply are not all that complicated.

There are three "high dollar" items. The charge pump (which almost NEVER goes out) and the two servo motors. Now, if someone tried to pull start the tractor, the motors have been starved for oil, they are toast and the transmission is not worth fixin'.

Otherwise, we can find your difficulty by using the process of elimination. The main thing is, we've got to have oil/pressure.

I re-emphasize that little "Foot-n-Inch" valve. It cannot leak in order for the tractor to move. Because, by it's design, it dumps the pressure (to stop the tractor). It is nothing more than an oversized needle/seat valve just like in a carburetor. Over time, the clutch linkage gets sloppy and out of adjustment. So, that guy is the first order of business to look at.

If, on the other hand, the tractor will move both directions for the first few minutes when it is cold and then gets progressively worse as the oil heats up, I think we have valve issues (very common ailment).

Allan

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Dave from MN

06-03-2006 11:31:45




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 Re: farmall 666 w/ hydro trans lurching ??? in reply to maplehillfrm,pat, 06-03-2006 09:05:28  
Are the brakes seized? It is best to put in in gear( right haND LEVER) , THEN use the speed ratio control lever ( left hand). You should be able to put er in gear lock the brakes hard and try to move it with it in idle. The motor should stall from overload if hydro is working good. may be low on hytran, filter may be restricting. Allan from NE just went through his a while back and I beleive the problem ended up being a little oring or hose. Complete rebuild in shop is $5000+ from what I have been told.

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maplehillfrm,pat

06-03-2006 22:08:06




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 Re: farmall 666 w/ hydro trans lurching ??? in reply to Dave from MN, 06-03-2006 11:31:45  
thansk , brakes are not seized , it rolled off the trailer , and came on the trailer no trouble, It looks like enuff fluid, I may try new filter first,



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