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Messed up Radiator Mount on H, how to fix it....

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Scott Rong

05-13-2006 06:43:52




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Hi, I have started taking my "42 H apart to fix a water pump and replace bad hoses. When removing the radiator I found that someone had tried brazing a new stud mount on the bottom of the radiator, well it didn"t hold so the mount is gone loose inside the casing of the radiator frame work. So I have a big hole where I need a place to screw in a mounting stud. Does anyone have suggestions on How I can fix this, or any suggestions would be openly received. Thanks in advance....

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SDE

05-14-2006 06:34:12




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 Re: Messed up Radiator Mount on H, how to fix it.. in reply to Scott Rong, 05-13-2006 06:43:52  
I messed up a mount stud on my 400s radiator. When I soldered it back in place, I put a nut on the stud and used a rope to suspend it from a rafter in the garage. It took quite a bit of heat from my little propane torch, but I got it done myself. Don't be afraid to do it ourself, if have have soldered other things before. SDE



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Michael Soldan

05-13-2006 06:53:01




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 Re: Messed up Radiator Mount on H, how to fix it.. in reply to Scott Rong, 05-13-2006 06:43:52  
Scott, if its a good rad I would take it to a rad shop and have them repair it properly, it won't be expensive to solder or silver solder the stud in place and then the fix is proper, sounds like you're the kind of guy who wants it right, good luck from Mike in Exeter Ontario



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Scott Rong

05-18-2006 07:09:14




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 Re: Messed up Radiator Mount on H, how to fix it.. in reply to Michael Soldan, 05-13-2006 06:53:01  
Hi Guys, well I fixed the radiator myself. After giving myself a good pep talk, and also spending a whole day cleaning and preping the site to work on, I was able to complete the fix, and its nice and solid. So the radiator is going to last me a few more years! I may down the road buy a new radiator when I do a complete frame off restore on the old girl, but for now this is going to work just fine for me. Thanks for all the encouragement, and helpful suggestions on getting this radiator fixed. Now I can use the money I would have spent on the radiator to buy some more parts, its always something....Scott.

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Yugrotcart

05-13-2006 08:41:41




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 Re: Messed up Radiator Mount on H, how to fix it.. in reply to Michael Soldan, 05-13-2006 06:53:01  
Michael,
I was to see Steve at Ontario Used Tractor the other day. A bit of a drive from Guelph, but what a nice guy to do business with..... ....



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Michael Soldan

05-13-2006 12:06:03




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 Re: Messed up Radiator Mount on H, how to fix it.. in reply to Yugrotcart, 05-13-2006 08:41:41  
Yugrocart,yes, Steve is a tremendous guy who will do all he can to help anyone out,not just parts but advice and ideas for you to consider..you probably messed up a ghood half day from Guelph...cheers...Mike



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Janicholson

05-13-2006 07:32:08




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 Re: Messed up Radiator Mount on H, how to fix it.. in reply to Michael Soldan, 05-13-2006 06:53:01  
Michael is on track. If you are a good solderer you might try it yourself. The key is clean, cool, and fast.
Clean everything till bright.
Position the stud plate and wedge it in place so it cannot move easily when bumped. (I use pieces of broken brick to do this because they do not melt/burn, and they do not suck up heat. Place the bracket so that it is upside down and kinda level to make the solder flow flat, not vertical.
Pack soaking rags in the back of the hole, and around the sides of the bracket and hole (this keeps the heat from traveling to the radiators solder joints, which you do not want to melt).
Use a soldering iron that is flame heated copper tipped, or an electric iron in the 450 watt+ range. get it well pre-heated befor starting. Use 60/40 tin lead acid core solder.
Apply the heat to the thickest parts at the joint first, the heat will transfer to the thin areas easily. Pre-coating the joint with flux is ok also, but use acid core solder.
After the solder runs in and fills the gaps, clean off the flux with solvent to keep corrosion away.

If the above is not comfortable to you, or you are not a solderer, follow Michael's advice!
Let us know what happens, JimN

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