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further 656 wiring issues

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charleskirton

05-12-2006 14:56:20




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firstly thanks to darrel for sending me the wiring diagrams for the 656.
having decifered them to the best of my ability the tractors now attempting to start on the push switch but as soon as it is released it dies.
the only part of the wiring that i can see that i may have missed is point 54 in the diagram "cable- solonoid switch "R" terminal to multiple connector - white with orange and purple cross tracers"
can anyone hazard a guess as to whats wrong or indeed what point 54 means?
thanks all

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Janicholson

05-13-2006 07:07:10




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 Re: further 656 wiring issues in reply to charleskirton, 05-12-2006 14:56:20  
An engine that runs on start only is pretty easy to diagnose. It is running because the ballast resistor bypass wire is doing its job. It is stopping because the "run" ignition circuit is "open". Put it in neutral, turn on the switch to run (not start) check for volts at the coil (supply side, not dist side, and the other lead of the volt meter to good shiny ground). If none, my theory is correct. If none, follow that wire to the ballast resistor. check for volts there at the terminal that wire connects to (there may be another wire there as well, ignore it). If volts, the wire is bad internally. If none, check for volts on the opposite side of the ballast resistor. if volts, replace theresistor, and you are set to go. If no volts, follow that wire to its other end and check for volts. If volts there that wire is bad. The wiring on your tractor may include switches and safety devices so tracing the wire may require effort. Eventualy the circuit will get back to the ignition switch terminal that is ign. (hot when in the run position. if this has no volts, the switch may be bad, or the supply to the switch may be disconnected. If the start on this tractor is like on a car by turning the key switch to start, the switch is bad. If it is by push button, the supply to the switch is faulty.
I hope this allows you to diagnose the problem.
keep un informed as to what you find, it is as important as our messages to you.
JimN

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charleskirton

05-13-2006 09:22:56




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 Re: further 656 wiring issues in reply to Janicholson, 05-13-2006 07:07:10  
i've put the wiring diagram photo in the pieces gallery here.
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if thats any help



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charleskirton

05-13-2006 09:06:25




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 Re: further 656 wiring issues in reply to Janicholson, 05-13-2006 07:07:10  
i have voltage at the coil. would it help to have the wiring diagram that i've decifered from the farmall manual could i email it to you? or indeed anyone else that could help



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