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AgED

05-10-2006 21:09:52




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I'm doing college research on the history of Displacement on Demand technology. I have been told by a few sources that IH had something like this on there 8 cyl tractors, 1468, 1568. It would cut off fuel to a few cyl when the tractor was not under any load. Does anyone know any more info about these tractors? Anything would be great, thanks!




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AgED

05-11-2006 15:25:11




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 Re: Displacement on Demand in reply to AgED, 05-10-2006 21:09:52  
Thanks a lot, this info really helped! especially the info on how it works the old vs. new!



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Bob M

05-11-2006 10:12:01




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 Re: Displacement on Demand in reply to AgED, 05-10-2006 21:09:52  
A neighbor had an IHC farm dump - an S1800 maybe?? - with the DV550. At idle (ie. with 4 cylinders cut out) the entire truck shook like a wet dog. But the instant you touched the accelerator all 8 cylinders went online and it smoothed right out.

Wasn't the fastest truck in the county. OTOH it consumed fuel at less than half the rate of it's 549 gasser counterpart!



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Paul in Mich

05-11-2006 07:36:14




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 Re: Displacement on Demand in reply to AgED, 05-10-2006 21:09:52  
The farmer I work for has an International 4568 FOD V8. It has plenty of power when reved up, but at low R.P.M.s the torque is greatly compromised. When pulling a heavy implement this creates a problem since to rev the engine before disengaging the clutch is hard on the clutch. Perhaps FOD has improved since the 4568 came out, but it does have its down side to offset its advantages.



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Easy

05-11-2006 05:55:57




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 Re: Displacement on Demand in reply to AgED, 05-10-2006 21:09:52  
Certaintly not a tractor, but in the 1980's Cadillac had a 4-6-8 design. The only problem it was that the solenoids would get dirty and stick in the 4 cylinder mode. Mileage was great, but if in the 4cyl mode acceleration was not!



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Aces

05-11-2006 05:08:25




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 Re: Displacement on Demand in reply to AgED, 05-10-2006 21:09:52  
AgEd Ih did make the 550 Diesel in the 1468 and 1568 in the 70's same engine as the trucks put different fuel pumps. I know a gut that had a truck. He did not complain about power. The main difference the truck only idaled on 4 where as the tractor was on a HP percent. As HP was needed the more the other 4 would come up to full power and were full at 75% load. Very good on fuel and plenty power. The other thing the trucks would run back ward very easy when shut off, was good idea to kill them with clutch.

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chadd

05-11-2006 05:03:38




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 Re: Displacement on Demand in reply to AgED, 05-10-2006 21:09:52  
Yes, both the 1468 and 1568 with the DV-550 engine had a displacement on Demand system OF A SORTS. In the modern DOD system, the pushrods on the cylinders that are shut down are prevented from moving, or are moved over to a lobe on the camshaft with zero lift. In this way the valves remain closed, no fuel or air enters or leaves the cylinder, and the piston keeps compressing and decompressing the same air, making the air act as a spring. In the system for the DV-550, the valves continued operating just like normal, just that no fuel was injected into 4 cylinders by the injection pump under light load. The 1468 used cylinders 1, 4, 6, and 7 under light loads. On the 1568, they changed the injection pump to use cylinders 2, 3, 5, and 8 under light load. The system supposedly worked well, but farmers hated the weird sound it made on 4 cylinders and the engines just weren't as good tractor engines as the 400 series inline sixes. The DV-550 had poorer torque-rise, were a sleeve-less design (which made rebuilds more expensive), had a weaker bottom end, and was not designed for the dirty, high-stress conditions inherent in a tractor (the engine was designed for trucks, boats, and stationary power units). It was maxed out in a tractor at 165 horsepower, and could not withstand the stress of turbocharging. The DTI-466 in-line six went on to produce upwards of 185+ in the 5488. They weren't bad tractors, but they weren't any better than the cheaper 6 cylinders, and were more of an advertising tractor. I think they were one of the coolest looking tractors, though. Hope the info helps!
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oliver fan

05-10-2006 21:48:38




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 Re: Displacement on Demand in reply to AgED, 05-10-2006 21:09:52  
AgED, I don't have any experance with those engines in farm tractors, but I drove a IH truck that had about the same engine in it.

I think the cubic inch was 550. I know IH had a 549 gas burner and I think the diesel was 550 C.I. Anyway, I know it would fire on 4 cylinders while sitting at a stop light, etc, but when you would take off, or put it under full power it would fire on all 8 cylinders.

As for power, it lacked a lot. The truck (tractor), trailer and load weighed about 58,000 pounds, if I remember right. A good running 348 Chevy V8 or a 351 G.M.C. V6 or a IH 345 V8, would run circles around that IH Diesel, with all of them weighing the same.

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Broomstacker

05-10-2006 21:36:20




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 Re: Displacement on Demand in reply to AgED, 05-10-2006 21:09:52  
My boss bought a 1468 in the sixties after I left for school. I never got to run it, but he seemed to like it ok. Not sure it was that much of a fuel saver, though.



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