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Scotty-mn

05-10-2006 07:59:58

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I live in Northern MN. I am looking to get a 5- 10 cows. I have narrowed it down to hereford and black angus.What are the pros and cons of each. This will be a commercial herd. Thanks Scotty

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Tallperson

05-10-2006 15:35:21

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Re: OT cattle in reply to Scotty-mn, 05-10-2006 07:59:58

Scotty I have a mixed herd. A few limosine moms, a couple of good saler cows, some red angus, and the rest are purebred angus and angus cross cows. One thing for sure they are all bred to a good registered angus calving ease bull... they all calve around the same time so the calves are very similar in size and shape.... THe solid black calves always bring the most money. And by using angus and angus crosses you will never have any problem with horns on your calves. Dehorning is a particularly distastefull business. Also as you go along you will notice which cows are the calmest and easiest to deal with. Keep their heiffer calves as replacements and your herd will become more and more gentle. Wild high headed rips go the sale barn as bred cows with nary a wave farewell... Life is too short to deal will fence jumpers or cows that want to blow snot in your pocket when you go the weigh and tag their newborn calf.. I raised my bull as a weaned calf, and he is gentle as they come. When I go out to check on the bunch he always walks over to get his neck scratched. A trick I taught him as a calf if he wanted to get his grain... Jusy my opinion of course , Tallperson

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Jimmy King

05-11-2006 03:48:36

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Re: OT cattle in reply to Tallperson, 05-10-2006 15:35:21

Tallperson, more people than one have been killed or hurt bad by bulls that were pets. Do Not Trust any Bull. Don't be scaried of them, but respect them.

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just 2 cents

05-10-2006 12:28:26

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Re: OT cattle in reply to Scotty-mn, 05-10-2006 07:59:58

you've made a good choice, no doubt but with the acreage you have i think i would go with the angus this is a web site you can post a question on and get some good answers www.cattletoday.co m

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EricB

05-10-2006 09:42:42

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Re: OT cattle in reply to Scotty-mn, 05-10-2006 07:59:58

Scotty:
Looks like your going for that small quality style of operation. (I hate the term Hobby Farm, I call it a micro operation.)
For best quality and good feed conversion have your looked at Belted Galoway? Nice easy to manage,smaller frame than angus. After that go to angus. You can AI with anything you like.

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Tim Shaw

05-10-2006 09:39:36

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Re: OT cattle in reply to Scotty-mn, 05-10-2006 07:59:58

Actually a good F1 black white face cow (cross between Hereford and Angus) is very hard to beat. Years ago we ran straight Herefords then started introducing Angus. Now our herd is all Angus or Hereford/Angus cross females. All things considered I prefer the crossbred females. You could mate them to an Angus bull or several of the continental breeds would work well too. My $.02, TS

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Rauville

05-10-2006 08:50:47

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Re: OT cattle in reply to Scotty-mn, 05-10-2006 07:59:58

Herefords seem to have a more docile temperament, and are easy keepers. Yet, red baldie calves always bring less at the sale barns.
If you wanted something with the best of both worlds, look into "Black Herefords". Probably too expensive right now, but they have all the strong traits of Herefords without the drawbacks.

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Case Lady

05-10-2006 08:37:50

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Re: OT cattle in reply to Scotty-mn, 05-10-2006 07:59:58

I would go with Angus cows and a horned hereford bull. Herefords have more problems with pink eye in our area. Angus will tolerate the cold a bit more, but aren't as prone to scavaging for grass as Herefords. Just my .02 worth. Good luck.

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Dwayne TX

05-10-2006 08:33:55

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Re: OT cattle in reply to Scotty-mn, 05-10-2006 07:59:58

Around here the most popular thing to do is breed a Hereford bull to black Angus cows. The black baldie calves seem to sell the best at the sale barn.

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Nebraska Cowman

05-10-2006 08:15:31

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Re: OT cattle in reply to Scotty-mn, 05-10-2006 07:59:58

Black Angus will take a little better feed to keep in condition but will be less problems and are better mothers. They still run Herefords in some of the rough and barren country and they will keep bred back and raise a small calf every year. If we don't get some rain soon there are going to lots of cows for sale.

Even bad boys are just as good as they can be

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Illinois Boy

05-10-2006 08:15:09

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Re: OT cattle in reply to Scotty-mn, 05-10-2006 07:59:58

The only thing I REALLY know about cows is this - they always want to be on the other side of the fence - especially if there are more cows over there!!!
Both are good stock - I like the angus "cause they"s purty....

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