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1066 Rear Axle Modification

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Michael Sheik

04-23-2006 10:35:06




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I am wanting to shorten the rear axles on my 1066. At present, they protrude 16 inches outside of the outside edge of rear tires. It does have what I assume to be factory duals with the axle clamp for the duals and the dual wheels bolt to this hub in the center. I want to take off 10 inches of the axle on each side which would leave the duals hub in the same place it is at present. I cannot think of an easier way to do this than with a cutting torch. What I want to know is if I am going to cause any problems doing this. The reason I am wanting to do it is my barn door is 12 ft wide and at present with the duals on, the O.D. on the duals is 11 feet 10 inches. Also my barn is somewhat small and do want to gain the space when parking in corner. I intend to take the duals off in a week or two and probably will not put them on again but want to always keep that option open for the future if I would need them.
All opinions are welcome!!!

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dhermesc

04-24-2006 05:31:38




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 Re: 1066 Rear Axle Modification in reply to Michael Sheik, 04-23-2006 10:35:06  
Use a Sawzall or some other cutting tool, don't use a torch – the heat will weaken the axle.

1066's are as common as dirt and worth even less. Now if you said you were going to cut the axles off a MTA diesel I'd probably be posting against it too, but then I'd give you the reason.



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Sheepdog in NE

04-23-2006 20:15:08




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 Re: 1066 Rear Axle Modification in reply to Michael Sheik, 04-23-2006 10:35:06  
First of all no one should be so know it all, like some of the responses you got. It's your tractor, you do what you want. We cut a set of axles with a 14' cut off wheel. Set the saw vise around axle (tire & wheel off). Might have to set saw on blocks. Leave vise loose. As you are cutting axle turn it with a pipe wrench slowly. The axle never gets so hot it won't throw sparks. Didn't take to long. We cut them off for pulling. Heaven forbid! Lost 90#. Good luck with your decision.

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agrogers

04-23-2006 19:36:39




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 Re: 1066 Rear Axle Modification in reply to Michael Sheik, 04-23-2006 10:35:06  
If you are up to it, and feel you must have shorter axles, why not snoop around for a set of short axles to replace your long ones?

(This is also easier said than done...)



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lee

04-23-2006 17:41:52




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 Re: 1066 Rear Axle Modification in reply to Michael Sheik, 04-23-2006 10:35:06  
It's your tractor so do what is best for you.
Most folks just feel you should not cut those big long axles. True, you can't put em back. Can't argue or blame them for opinions but if I owned it and I thought shorter axles would be best for me and I didn't need them long axles and I didn't care if maybe someone might need them, then I'd weight it all rightly so and decide. Rent one of those portable band saws and cut them square. You can also cut with a torch if you know what you are doing and have a torch that can handle it. You can then square them off with a disk grinder and remove all trace of torch cut. It would take a while but I could make them look like they'd never been altered. The band saw however would do a great job faster.

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Hugh MacKay

04-23-2006 17:25:34




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 Re: 1066 Rear Axle Modification in reply to Michael Sheik, 04-23-2006 10:35:06  
Michael: If you are not aware why those axles are that length, may I suggest you have no need for such a tractor, nor are you capable of using it.

To start with there is no way you can transfer the horsepower of a 1066 to the drawbar with only two tires, short of putting 5,000 lbs. of rear weight on it. If you do that those tires will have a short life. You will also be creating very much to increased soil compaction.

I bought a new 1066 in 1975 on 20.8x38 singles and loaded with calcium chloride. In 1,000 operating hours those tires were SHOT. I added axle duals, bought 4 new tires, same tires as factory originals. I installed those with no added weight and ran them 9,000 hours. In field conditions the tractor with duals and no added weight will out pull the singles loaded.

Now if your into tractor pulling on a hard track, the singles with weight added will pull more, and it will take you 500 years to put a 1,000 hours on it.

Wax the damn tractor and park it outside. Since the mid 1960s those big tractors are pretty well weather proof. The insurance costs of housing such a big tractor make outside storage a must. If you have extended periods when tractor is not in use the condensation factor is far greater in an unheated building than in the great outdoors.

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Michael Sheik

04-24-2006 04:43:32




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 Re: 1066 Rear Axle Modification in reply to Hugh MacKay, 04-23-2006 17:25:34  
Now, Mr. MacKay!!! First off you can suggest anything you want and I opened myself up for that by making the post BUT I will be D_MNED if you have the right to suggest that I am not capable of using the tractor!!!!! !!! I have no clue where you are, how old you are, what you do for a living, city boy or country boy, etc. etc. and you the same of me.
Just for your information, I was raised on a farm(wheat country in Oklahoma) and I am capable of handling it and much more. I just do not see many applications for the long axles where I farm and I sure have not see one in my operation or my dad's for that matter.

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Hugh MacKay

04-24-2006 07:47:24




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 Re: 1066 Rear Axle Modification in reply to Michael Sheik, 04-24-2006 04:43:32  
Michael: I said what I think, as I always do. In a public forum and indeed throughout life in these two great countries we live in that is one right we have, "freedom of speech"

I never said don't cut off your axles, you do as you wish, it's your tractor. What I do see however, is no one matters but Michael Sheik. Coming on here and saying you cant see any use for those long axles. Get a life and find out why. I'll almost bet you've never read anyone's thread but your own. This forum is about people, sharing their life experiences, learning why the peanut farmer in Georgia, or the grain farmer in the west, or a vegetale farmer, or a dairy farmer did it differently.

I farmed a lot of years, ran as many as 7 tractors, 4 trucks, 2 skid loaders and a SP Combine at one time. The tractors ranged from a Super A all the way to a 1066, and all of them bought new or very close to it. In my lifetime I've owned 16 Farmalls, 1 Cockshutt, 2 Cases and one Deere. I never bought a new tractor unless it was going to see 800 hours of operation per year. My 1066 crossed the 10,000 hour mark before it was 8 years old.

In the past few years I have operated articulated tractors all the way up to 350 hp. I my opinion articulated is the way to go in anything over 100 hp. I've been saying that since about 1977, two years after I bought my 1066. Back about 5 years ago I went to operate a tractor mounted blueberry harvester, not because it was a big tractor, in fact it was only 60hp. Why, because I wanted to broaden my knowledge.

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ncdiesel560

04-23-2006 16:51:55




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 Re: 1066 Rear Axle Modification in reply to Michael Sheik, 04-23-2006 10:35:06  
Mike I just cut the axles on a 1086 I used a porta band it took about 15 minutes per axle. Tried the sawz all but it wouldnt even cut it. I took off 7 inches and it made a nice difference.



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CNKS

04-23-2006 16:30:04




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 Re: 1066 Rear Axle Modification in reply to Michael Sheik, 04-23-2006 10:35:06  
Go in your building at an angle, if you have room, less width needed that way. Or make your door wider (easier said than done). My employer cut the axles off a JD 3020, they weren't even in the way.



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Michael Sheik

04-23-2006 14:37:38




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 Re: 1066 Rear Axle Modification in reply to Michael Sheik, 04-23-2006 10:35:06  
Alright, you guys seem pretty addiment about not cutting them off. Well, I had not made up my mind when I made the post and was asking for reasons why not too. You gave me a couple and I thank you for that! It just scares the heck out of me imagining ripping out the side of my barn or something. I still haven't made up my mind what to do! Why the heck did they stick them out there that far? What was the wide spacing made for? I will not let this machine set outside -no way in H_LL, that is not the way I was raised!

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Mike S 806/H

04-23-2006 16:08:08




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 Re: 1066 Rear Axle Modification in reply to Michael Sheik, 04-23-2006 14:37:38  
Are your duals spaced for row croping? our 1066 is set up for 28 inch rows, axles dont stick out at all, our 826 has the extra long axle option, it was for pulling dry beans, wheels were pulled all the way out!



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Mike S 806/H

04-23-2006 11:58:45




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 Re: 1066 Rear Axle Modification in reply to Michael Sheik, 04-23-2006 10:35:06  
I agree with Allan, dont cut the axles!! but If you do dont use the torch, I would try a sawsall, the reason I wouldnt cut them is if you sell the tractor somebody else may need that extra axle you cut off,



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Allan In NE

04-23-2006 11:13:34




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 Re: 1066 Rear Axle Modification in reply to Michael Sheik, 04-23-2006 10:35:06  
Mike,

For Gawd's sake, leave the tractor set outside or build another shed.

Don't cut those axles! Pretty sure that it is a hangin' offence. :>(

Allan



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Michael Sheik

04-23-2006 11:43:35




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 Re: 1066 Rear Axle Modification in reply to Allan In NE, 04-23-2006 11:13:34  
Give me your reasoning!!!



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John A

04-23-2006 13:32:53




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 Re: 1066 Rear Axle Modification in reply to Michael Sheik, 04-23-2006 11:43:35  
Michael, I realize that all that is important is what is going on right now, ...BUT... you may sell, tradeoff, that tractor; thought right now it may not even have entered your mind. But the NEXT OWNER will be shorted on his opitions. I Know for a neighbor got a 4430 last yr. He wanted to add axle nount duals, but the axles are now too short. He and I have both cussed the man and his ancestors for cutting those axles, What a F---up mess, not cleanly done, Some nimrods first attempt with a tourch.
My 966 has the long axles--There isn't enought money outthere to get me to cut them off.
Once you cut them off you can"t put them back on!!!
Is there times I have gotten them into fences, barns, gates & post; REC Poles....Big chuncks, YES!!! I have learned to doublely watchout when I am in tight places.
Please I beg you to reconcider do not tourch them off
Later,
John A.

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