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Hugh and other plow boys

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Paul Shuler

04-18-2006 18:07:06




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I picked me up a plow and disk this last weekend. I know very little about plows. You might notice in the photo that there is a peice missing off the right hand plow and the wheel {don't know the real name} is missing that goes in front of the plows. Will this keep me from doing a good job of plowing? I hope to make a 1 acre food plot for the deer and turkeys. I am not so much interested in the plow being a perfect restoration but if I could still get parts for it I would make it more complete. You better look out Allen, plow photos will be on the way from my little Super C very soon.

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gab

04-19-2006 18:29:35




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 Re: Hugh and other plow boys in reply to Paul Shuler, 04-18-2006 18:07:06  
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Hope this works.



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Paul Shuler

04-19-2006 20:04:25




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 Re: Hugh and other plow boys in reply to gab, 04-19-2006 18:29:35  
Wow! Very nice.



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gab

04-19-2006 18:01:54




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 Re: Hugh and other plow boys in reply to Paul Shuler, 04-18-2006 18:07:06  
If you had the old regular plow bottoms, a set of colters and cream colored steel tailwheel it would look just like mine. I think the model # is c-20. I have seen one at an auction that had those slat bottoms. Jim



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Hugh Mac Kay

04-19-2006 17:24:03




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 Re: Hugh and other plow boys in reply to Paul Shuler, 04-18-2006 18:07:06  
Paul: There are 5 different part numbers for frogs on slat bottoms and none of them are the same as the General Purpose or several other solid bottoms sold by IH at the time. If you wish give me the part nunber on the frog, and in return I can give you the part number for that missing slat.

If you see a good set of GP plow bottoms complete with frogs, built anywhere between 1930 and 1960 they will probably bolt up to your plow frame.

Your plow model number will start with a C and is probably a C-25, and the C does not stand for C or SC tractors. They were available as either small fork fast hitch for SC, 200 and 230 or in a Cat I 3 point hitch model. It is a Canadian built plow, built at Hamilton Ontario, precisely why it has the C ahead of the number. Notice the cross members between the plow beams. All US built IH plows had diagnol cross members, whereas Canadian built IH plows had perpendicular cross members as your plow does.

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Paul Shuler

04-19-2006 17:35:30




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 Re: Hugh and other plow boys in reply to Hugh Mac Kay, 04-19-2006 17:24:03  
Thank you Hugh. I will see if I can't look around on it for the numbers. It will be a few days, I have got very far behind on things that need done around the house and I have to work this weekend so it may be the first of next week sometime. Thanks again,
Paul



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Hugh MacKay

04-20-2006 01:54:59




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 Re: Hugh and other plow boys in reply to Paul Shuler, 04-19-2006 17:35:30  
Paul: I think gab may be correct on that plow model number, C-25 is the small fork 2 bottom plow I remember, but it was also built well into the 60s mainly in 3 point version. I had a feeling there had been a fast hitch plow that came before it. And yes C-20 does ring a bell, plus yours or gab's plow are not exactly the same as my brothers plow that came with his 230. Close, but not exact.

Like gab said all you need is complete bottoms from just about any IH plow from that era. Go for GP bottoms, as wear parts will be an easier find. Now, if you really want to go into competition plowing, send me an e mail and I'll find you a couple of IH ACE bottoms.

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Randy in NE

04-19-2006 10:46:05




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 Re: Hugh and other plow boys in reply to Paul Shuler, 04-18-2006 18:07:06  
Paul, I have a two bottom slotted mold board plow for my C. I think that it is a C-294 where the Super C is a C295. I would have to look at my parts book at home. The plow for the C has the lifting bar down the left side of the seat where the Super C was down the right hand side.



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Allan In NE

04-19-2006 04:23:10




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 Re: Hugh and other plow boys in reply to Paul Shuler, 04-18-2006 18:07:06  
Mornin' Paul,

Oh sure. Where the heck where ya when I needed yer help? :>)

Tell ya what I'll do. I'll sell ya my plow just pretty darned reasonable 'cause I'm all done 'til fall and I really want a Massey plow anyway.

Come get it and I'll even load it fer ya free of charge.

Allan

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Paul Shuler

04-19-2006 14:22:31




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 Re: Hugh and other plow boys in reply to Allan In NE, 04-19-2006 04:23:10  
That is a very nice offer Allen. But I don't think that my Super C would lift your plow much less pull the thing. I imagine I would drop the clutch and it would either kill it right there or turn me over backwards. Would make for a nice photo though with that big dog hitched to a Super C.



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Hugh MacKay

04-19-2006 02:34:51




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 Re: Hugh and other plow boys in reply to Paul Shuler, 04-18-2006 18:07:06  
Paul: What you have there is an IH slat bottom, designed for plowing in very heavy sticky clay soils that don't scour very well. You may encounter some problems plowing in light sandy loams with soil going through the slats.

Personally I'd look for regular moldboards. Even though your plow is 50s era those bottoms go well back into the 30s. I have two complete parts books with over 65 IH plows. Send me a photo of plow not hitched to tractor and I can give you an ID on the plow. Also check out the part number on the frog and I will be able to tell you the right part number for regular moldboards.

I'd go into more detail right now except there is an 8760 Deere waiting for me at a hedge row. After spending 10 hours in it yesterday then coming home to disk my garden with 140. Given the power difference, I fear the Deere may take off without me if allowed to sit too long in daylight.

I'll get back to you this evening, providing the Deere doesn't get the best of me. This old flesh and new iron, almost as fatal as farming with slow horses and fast women.

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Michael Soldan

04-18-2006 20:04:28




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 Re: Hugh and other plow boys in reply to Paul Shuler, 04-18-2006 18:07:06  
Paul, my first thought was "Its a potato plow" Now the reason I thought that was because my neighbour had a horse plow with slotted molboard and it was for turning potatos out of the ground, the idea being the slots would allow dirt to drop through and roll the potatos out into a windrow, now I could be totally wrong but...slotted molboards.. that's a rarity..Mike in Exeter Ontario



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Josh H

04-18-2006 18:52:18




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 Re: Hugh and other plow boys in reply to Paul Shuler, 04-18-2006 18:07:06  
It would probably work as is. In hard ground it might be quite a load for the C though. You may be able to have a welding shop repair the broken slat. The wheel you refer to is probably the coulters, discs that cut the side of the furrow. They will make the plow pull a little easier, and in some conditions help to do a nicer job, but aren't necasary.
Josh H



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Bob M

04-18-2006 18:43:07




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 Re: Hugh and other plow boys in reply to Paul Shuler, 04-18-2006 18:07:06  
Interesting looking plow Paul - never seen one like that around here (western NY).

By the "missing wheel in front of the plows" do you mean the coulter disks? If your ground is free of trash (last year's crop stubble, weed stalks, etc.) it'll probably plow OK without coulters. However with coulters you get a neater looking furrow - and if there is any trash it'll cut slice through it so the plow rolls the soil over more completely. ...Bob

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Paul Shuler

04-18-2006 18:59:23




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 Re: Hugh and other plow boys in reply to Bob M, 04-18-2006 18:43:07  
Hi Bob, The area I will be plowing is just sod that at this time I am mowing. Are the coulters still avaiable and are they pretty standard for IH plows or is the many styles?



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Bob M

04-19-2006 05:27:19




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 Re: Hugh and other plow boys - photos in reply to Paul Shuler, 04-18-2006 18:59:23  
Hey Paul - Punch below for a few shots of me plowing the pumpkin patch at the tree farm a few days ago. My apologies for there being no red equipment here! I'm pulling my 4 bottom Oliver plow using the tree farm's JD 5410.



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Paul Shuler

04-19-2006 16:41:39




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 Re: Hugh and other plow boys - photos in reply to Bob M , 04-19-2006 05:27:19  
Hey Bob, can you open your e-mail for me or send me your e-mail to Pshuler@sprg.mercy.net. I have a question about your photos that is way too dumb to post in public.
Paul



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Bob M

04-19-2006 18:16:21




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 Re: Hugh and other plow boys - photos in reply to Paul Shuler, 04-19-2006 16:41:39  
Check your email Paul!



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