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656 d TA problems

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CHRISCO

04-14-2006 16:37:40




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I am thinking about buying this 656 d but the stick does not work and the hyd. are a little weak but the motor runs great. my first question is the stick hydraulic because the pump it weak or is it just out?? yea i changed the filter and checked the fluid and it is fine could the oil sling er be bad because the piggy back pump for the steering seames weak to? Oh yea it came from Canda

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Aces

04-15-2006 12:56:36




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 Re: 656 d TA problems in reply to CHRISCO, 04-14-2006 16:37:40  
Chrisco If you had the second pump on there without hitch the oil would have no place to go and would get hot trying to pump the oil.



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CHRISCO

04-15-2006 07:39:31




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 Re: 656 d TA problems in reply to CHRISCO, 04-14-2006 16:37:40  
Thanks Allen.



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Allan In NE

04-14-2006 16:54:06




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 Re: 656 d TA problems in reply to CHRISCO, 04-14-2006 16:37:40  
Chris,

The piggyback pump, if your tactor even has one, is for the hitch only. I see your hitch has either been removed or never had one.

Nothing at all happens with the stick or does it neutral when you pull it back? If nothing at all happens, you might just have a bad roll pin 'er something in the linkage.

The T/A is all mechanical; no hydraulics to it.

Allan



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Allan In NE

04-14-2006 17:02:06




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 Re: 656 d TA problems in reply to Allan In NE, 04-14-2006 16:54:06  
Oh yeah,

And if your remotes and steering are both weak, probably time to replace the main hydraulic pump.

Allan



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CHRISCO

04-14-2006 21:53:21




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 Re: 656 d TA problems in reply to Allan In NE, 04-14-2006 17:02:06  
But I thought that the piggyback pump was for the stearing only like on my 340?



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Allan In NE

04-15-2006 02:47:09




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 Re: 656 d TA problems in reply to CHRISCO, 04-14-2006 21:53:21  
Chris,

On this size tractor, the front pump (located behind the square plate in your pictute) feeds the steering, the remotes and lubes the differential in that order. When the steering isn't being used, that oil is sent out to the oil cooler.

If the tractor has a powered hitch, then it will have another pump bolted to and which drives from that front pump. This second pump is referred to as a "piggyback" because it is mounted to and driven from the first pump.

Those tractors that left the factory without a two or three point hitch just have a cover-plate bolted to the front pump instead of another pump.

Your tractor doesn't have a rockshaft or a lower draft-sensing shaft and therefore, I really doubt if it has the second piggybacked pump.

At any rate, if the tractor has weak power steering AND weak remotes, it is a pretty good bet that the hydraulic pump is weak 'cause the first 3.5 gallons of oil is dedicated solely to the steering.

Also, the hydraulic system has nothing to do with the T/A, so it sounds like you are fighting two completely different problems with this tractor.

I might add too, and maybe it is just me, but that the T/A lever in your picture doesn't look right. It appears to be "too far forward" almost as though it isn't even hooked up to anything.

Hope ya get 'er figured out.

Allan

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