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Dennis in WI

04-06-2006 18:23:21




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I have a model 70 3-14" plow with moldboard P/N 522328R1 and a 3 bolt share. Is this the High-speed or the general purpose moldboard and is either still available from Case/IH? Thankyou for any help.




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MJD

04-06-2006 22:16:36




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 Re: Super Chief moldboard in reply to Dennis in WI, 04-06-2006 18:23:21  
Dennis -- I have 2 rollover plows, 2 bottom, and they both have the Super Chief moldboards. They are great to use, and still be able to get these wear parts from the Case-IH dealer as Hugh says. When set correct, they do plow nicely, not much used today in the farming world, but I am a plow collector enthusiast, and love those old machines. Making the earth so ready for planting anew !!!!!

mjd

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Hugh MacKay

04-07-2006 02:46:37




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 Re: Super Chief moldboard in reply to MJD, 04-06-2006 22:16:36  
MJD: I like your phrase, "making the earth so ready for planting anew". I do a fair bit of travelling, tend to stick with country roads, as I enjoy seeing farming operations. The one thing I do zero in on is the quality of plowing folks do. My dad always said you could pick out the good farmers by the quality of their plowing. That being the case, and I don't for one minute dispute what he said, "farming has sure as hell gone down hill in the past 50 years". A lot of folks think a plow is nothing more than an instrument to dig up the earth, not so, it is the very first tool used in creating a smooth seed bed. 90% of all plows ever built have the ability to do this, providing one adheres to the speed the bottoms were engineered for. If you could imagine a perfectly flat field, at least in theory, and you had a 100' straight edge, laid it across the field at any angle, every furrow should touch that straight edge equally. That is what good plowing should look like from the highway.

Don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with no till, however the guys I see doing the very best job with it are still plowing 1 year in 3, 4 or 5. I also see guys out there that had to go no till, their plowing was so damn poor, that in 20 years the field would be so rough, they would have to return to the sythe or sickle for harvesting. So if I drive by your place this summer I will be judging your plowing. Rememeber, I don't need to see fresh plowing either. I just need to see them on the land with tractor at 4 to 5 mph and if he needs a hard hat to keep from hitting his head on cab posts, you know he's doing damn poor plowing. If a man has done good plowing over the years, one should be able to drive the average automobile at 50 mph across field.

I did my first plowing close to 50 years ago with a Farmall H and a No.8 2x14 IH Ace bottom plow. I've never plowed with General Purpose bottoms. The plow I most detested was a No.60, 4x16 with Plow Chief bottoms, and really those are not a lot different than Super Chief other than that damn two piece point and share. It was a knuckle buster changing points and shares, and one would have to wonder why as they wouldn't stay tight once you did get the new set installed. Every set one had to buy 4 shares and 6 points as you knew you were going to loose two points during the life of the shares. The Super Chief has been over the years just what was named, "a Super Chief Plow". Easy to pull, engineered for a bit more speed than some of the older plows. Just about every company had a very close relative of the Super Chief bottom. How much the industry has improved plows in the past 20 years, I'm not sure? Is there a higher speed bottom, I'm not sure? The guys I see out there plowing and creating a nice smooth seed bed for planting anew, are still running 3.5 to 4.5 mph.

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Allan In NE

04-07-2006 04:29:27




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 Re: Super Chief moldboard in reply to Hugh MacKay, 04-07-2006 02:46:37  
Mornin' Hugh,

Yes, I agree with what you say; every darned word. Normally when you're done, the field ought to look like a pool table.

However, every once in a while a fellow has to tie into something like this mess. At this point, worrying about what the neighbors think as they drive down the road in their air conditioned cars is mute.

Just tryin' to figure out how to make it to the other end totally consumes yer brain. :>)

Allan

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MJD

04-08-2006 06:07:48




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 Re: Super Chief moldboard in reply to Allan In NE, 04-07-2006 04:29:27  
Allan - when we tore up sod, or alfalfa fields, Dad and I would like to have an agressivive disk in there after the plow. Just to crunch up the plowing into little bits. To crumble up the dirt more. Sometimes even disking 2 times, different directions. Then, a roller mulcher (we call it a roller-harrow). We wanted to disk it pretty soon after the plowing, so the plowed bigger chunks, or pieces, would break up fairly easy before they got too dried out.
I am sure you know what I mean, I just wanted to say how your pictures look so well and make me recall our times in similar fields. The seedbed always was really nice after working down somewhat, and corn, grain, or sugar beets grew really great with some "green" plant life plowed under. Enriches the soil like nature intended I guess.
I wish I could post big pictures here like you do ! Can you give me lessons on that ????

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Hugh MacKay

04-07-2006 05:12:25




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 Re: Super Chief moldboard in reply to Allan In NE, 04-07-2006 04:29:27  
Allan: Quite agree, but even form my air conditioned car, I can see your also dealing with past history. You will conquer. The disadvantage for the guy in the air conditioned car he doesn't always know who the history belongs to.

It only takes a short time to create a mess, but years to correct it. I remember once being short handed, hired a cowboy to operate 1066 with 25' cultivator. My lead hand checked on him 1/2 hour into his cultivating, very lucky I might add. He was making 11 mph with cultivator bouncing. It would go full depth, then spring up practically out of ground. He had only made 4 rounds, that is the good part. What he had done, if you could imagine, felt like driving on solid waves on 6" seas, driving on it with pickup. Two seasons of tillage later you could still feel that when driving on it. By the way he had also broke 4 cultivator shanks in that 1/2 hour.

I currently see a guy not far from me, trying to get an abused field back in smooth condition. He'd like to be doing no till, but it's just going to take some more conventional tillage to smooth that out. Lets face it, there are guys out there can make plowing look like they used a D8 with a ripper.

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Allan In NE

04-07-2006 05:22:23




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 Re: Super Chief moldboard in reply to Hugh MacKay, 04-07-2006 05:12:25  
I know a fellow who does that 11 mph cultivating thing. Poor old tractor is just heavin' up and down.

I just want to go out there, stop him, take him by the shoulders and shake him. No sense to that kind of behaviour.

Allan



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MJD

04-06-2006 22:16:24




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 Re: Super Chief moldboard in reply to Dennis in WI, 04-06-2006 18:23:21  
Dennis -- I have 2 rollover plows, 2 bottom, and they both have the Super Chief moldboards. They are great to use, and still be able to get these wear parts from the Case-IH dealer as Hugh says. When set correct, they do plow nicely, not much used today in the farming world, but I am a plow collector enthusiast, and love those old machines. Making the earth so ready for planting anew !!!!!

mjd

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Hugh macKay

04-06-2006 19:57:54




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 Re: Super Chief moldboard in reply to Dennis in WI, 04-06-2006 18:23:21  
Dennis:Certainly not high speed by todays standards, as they were engineered for 3.5 to 4.5 mph. General Purpose moldboards were never used on models 60 and 70 plows, they go back to the days of Little Genius plows

The first model 60 and 70 plows had Plow Chief bottoms. They were only used for roughly 5 years then all new IH plows including 60 and 70 came with Super Chief bottoms.

Yes, all Super Chief plow wear parts are available at CaseIH.

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