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Painting air/ surface temp?

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Rick/Oasis ID

03-16-2006 09:01:47

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K guys the block ect is off to the machine shop and the 300 is cleaned and ready for paint. I assumed the air/ surface temp should be 70 plus degrees but i see the paint manurfactuer recomends 50 to 90 degrees. our high temp is 53 on a good day with 32 or so at night. I can heat the 2 car garage up with my heater but it would be tough to maintain it long enough to raise the surface temp. Can i get a quailty job not a restoration tppe paint job in these conditions or should i be patience and wait for warmer weather. Sorry for the long post. Thanks Rick

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Dave_Id

03-16-2006 17:14:20

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Re: Painting air/ surface temp? in reply to Rick/Oasis ID, 03-16-2006 09:01:47

You'll need to wait until May

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souNdguy

03-16-2006 10:56:12

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Re: Painting air/ surface temp? in reply to Rick/Oasis ID, 03-16-2006 09:01:47

The paint I use says 40-90' I've painted in low 50's and not had any problems other than slightly longer cure times.

I use hardner, and i figure if i can get the paint on and keep it above it's minimum temp for an average of the cure times I'm good to go. My last paint job was in november here in florida... that was 50's during the day and 40's at night.. I shot a couple coats on a tractor in the low 50's.. and it stayed tacky into the night.. In the morning it was cured fine..

I think humidity will be more of a problem that straight temps.. etc..

Soundguy

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Nebraska Cowman

03-16-2006 10:15:56

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Re: Painting air/ surface temp? in reply to Rick/Oasis ID, 03-16-2006 09:01:47

I've pained lots of tractors in the dead of winter outside. Just have it all prepped and wait for a nice day; then squirt away.

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Michael Sheik

03-16-2006 10:25:38

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Re: Painting air/ surface temp? in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 03-16-2006 10:15:56

You will be a smart man to wait until 60 Deg. Lots of variables here like Enamel, Acrylic Enamel, Lacquer, whether or not your using hardener, using thinner for the temp. range you are expecting and on and on!!! Bottom line is follow the instructions on the paint can, and thinner.
Better yet if you can stick her in the shed and leave there for 18 to 24 hr. with the heat on to get metal warm. Turn off heat while painting and ventilate when done.

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Cowman

03-16-2006 10:49:20

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Re: Painting air/ surface temp? in reply to Michael Sheik, 03-16-2006 10:25:38

I did say nice day. I frezze to death at anything below 60�

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Rick / Oasis ID

03-16-2006 10:55:50

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Re: Painting air/ surface temp? in reply to Cowman, 03-16-2006 10:49:20

Cowman i need to be where your at cause dead of winter around here can be sub zero, but i get the point wait till it warms up a little. Thanks Ya'll Rick

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Nebraska Cowman

03-16-2006 11:06:01

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Re: Painting air/ surface temp? in reply to Rick / Oasis ID, 03-16-2006 10:55:50

It can be well below zero here too but have seen lots of days in the 70s even in january. It is a land of extreems. Too Hot, Too Cold, Too Windy and always Too Dry

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Rick/Oasis ID

03-16-2006 10:40:08

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Re: Painting air/ surface temp? in reply to Michael Sheik, 03-16-2006 10:25:38

Michael I am using enamel w/ hardner and thinner if needed.

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Michael Sheik

03-16-2006 11:10:15

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Re: Painting air/ surface temp? in reply to Rick/Oasis ID, 03-16-2006 10:40:08

Straight Enamel dries slow even with hardener. What is the thinner - lacquer thinner, mineral spirits or xylene(xylol). Or is it special thinner for the specific paint sold to you. If it were me I probably would just wait but if you must go, I would use the lacquer thinner as it works like a "fast" thinner but could affect the shine of some paints (maybe just a tick less shiny).
Big secret here is have the metal to correct temp. and not the air and follow the label!
One last suggestion is to try a test shot on small piece of plate steel set up at the working conditions you are anticipating. Better than messing up the whole tractor.

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Stan(PA)

03-16-2006 09:56:23

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Re: Painting air/ surface temp? in reply to Rick/Oasis ID, 03-16-2006 09:01:47

Patience is a virtue :) Wait for temps to stabilize above 60. You"ll be glad you did in the long run. Also make sure the metal temp is stablized to ambient. Don"t spray in the morning if it was a chilly evening, because the metal takes time to stabilize. Don"t spray after metal has been setting in the sun. I"m not much of a painter, but this much I am sure of :)

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