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Farmall H stability??

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Guyzoo

03-06-2006 11:08:47




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Hi, I would like to know if a farmall H with a wide front end is stable. I bought this tractor this winter with a snowplow but today, after removing the snow plow, I found that the front end seems pretty light. It has NO fluids in the tires. I will have to remove stumps this spring with it. The stumps are no more than 4-5 inches in diameter. I know my Allis-Chalmers WD was doing pretty good removing those stumps last fall but she is going thru a full restoration right now. Any advices from experts would be really appreciated since I am only 17 years old.
THANKS A BUNCH

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PAULIH300

03-06-2006 18:36:14




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 Re: Farmall H stability?? in reply to Guyzoo, 03-06-2006 11:08:47  
This is one of those occasions when having a Hough/Payloader in addition to an IH tractor would be handy...



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Dellbertt

03-06-2006 18:11:12




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 Re: Farmall H stability?? in reply to Guyzoo, 03-06-2006 11:08:47  
I totally agree with Nat2.

I have been pulling small stumps with an H for a long long time without one incident.

LEAVE THE STUMP 4 FOOT AND BEND IT OVER.

NEVER YANK A LOOSE CHAIN. Always tighten the chain first and then if you want to rock it a little do it with small pressures on the clutch.

ALWAYS HAVE THE TRACTOR LEVEL OR POINTING STRAIGHT DOWN A GRADE. NEVER SIDE OR UP GRADE.

TRY TO PULL WHEN GROUND IS SOFT.

DONT GET STUCK ON STUPID. If you see that the stump is just not going to come out, move on, let it be, or get the shovel out and start diggin.

Dont think Im stupid enough not to realize that a small dozer would be nice to have. But an H is a great puller for small stumps.

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riverbend

03-06-2006 16:56:45




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 Re: Farmall H stability?? in reply to Guyzoo, 03-06-2006 11:08:47  
Having asked the same question about stability, I did not get much hard and fast information. For side hills, I like to keep the top of the hood inside the front tire.

There is a tractor roll-over webpage from the Univ of NC (if I remember correctly). It was worth reading. The gist of it is that you have to keep the tractor's center of gravity in between all the wheels. When you are pulling, the center of gravity can shift back too far if you have enough power and traction.

I guess you already know about tractors, chains, and stumps...

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bear4work

03-06-2006 16:03:59




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 Re: Farmall H stability?? in reply to Guyzoo, 03-06-2006 11:08:47  
Well, then don"t use one of those small, ancient chains. Use a good, strong chain and don"t pull the crap out of it. If its one of those maple stumps with the sub-root system under the main roots, leave it!! I"ve been clearing land and pullin stumps for 25 years!! I don"t mean to be a know-it-all, but as long as your safe, you can do it. If you do something dumb, like not make the chain be even, then you are gonna get hurt. And as Pa always sez "make sure there is someone else around so if somethin does happen, you have help".

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Nat 2

03-06-2006 14:10:09




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 Re: Farmall H stability?? in reply to Guyzoo, 03-06-2006 11:08:47  
I'm gonna be another one who says it can be done, but you've got to be smart about how you do it, or you'll end up eating chain.

The key is leverage. Most people equate pulling stumps to cutting the tree off level with the ground, wrapping a chain around it, then tugging and jerking with the tractor for all its worth until the chain breaks or the stump comes loose.

Small trees, about the size you're pulling, work best if you leave a stump at least 4-5 feet tall. Wrap the chain around the top, and it'll tip over easy as pie. If the chain breaks, it's going to head straight for the ground, but it won't break because you're not putting a fraction of the tension on it that you would using brute force.

Once the stump is tipped over, you can hack away at the remaining roots until it's free, then drag it away.

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john d

03-06-2006 12:01:40




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 Re: Farmall H stability?? in reply to Guyzoo, 03-06-2006 11:08:47  
I'm going to agree with Tractor Vet on this one. Find another way to get those stumps out of the ground. I'll take your word for it that the Allis was pulling them, but it wasn't pulling them safely. Since you are mature enough to ask for advice, there's a good-to-better chance that you'll take some good advice and live to be as old as most on this board. Don't pull stumps with old farm tractors - PLEASE.

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the tractor vet

03-06-2006 11:45:42




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 Re: Farmall H stability?? in reply to Guyzoo, 03-06-2006 11:08:47  
Pulling stumps with a wheel tractor is not the best idea the best stump removal tool out there is either a stump grinder , track hoe , or a backhoe or Dozer and it only take a split second from being in the seat and being under the tractor or having the chain break or cable snap and seirously hurting you or killing you. I cringe every time someone tells me that he is going loggen or stump pulling with a tractor . And how many times someone will say oh well i am quick on the clutch well maybe so but what if your foot slips off that clutch or the linkage breaks ain't going to help you one littel bit and it can read on your toumbstone he was quick on the clutch all but the last time.

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Janicholson

03-06-2006 12:02:03




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 Re: Farmall H stability?? in reply to the tractor vet, 03-06-2006 11:45:42  
As stated do not do it. Use the tractor as a anchor, and a nice 3 ton come along as a power source, Place a stump puller A frame over the stump, and pull that way. Old time horse pictures will show you how to make the A frame.
JimN



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the tractor vet

03-06-2006 12:22:34




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 Re: Farmall H stability?? in reply to Janicholson, 03-06-2006 12:02:03  
Myself i like the track hoe -dozer methiod , i can do a lot of clearing in short order and the worst thing is ya might eat a littel dirt off a root . the dumbest thing i ever did with a tractor was the day that i got a fast hitch blade stuck in the fast hitch of my 450 because we thought that we had to use the spacers as that is what the salesman told me so we installed the spacers and started to shove the prongs into the fast hitch well they stoped going in and my buddy says just back into that tree as they are rusty well we did that and they were only half way in and would not come out SO NOT BEING TO BRIGHT AnD NOT HAVING A HALF WIT BETWEEN THE TWO OF US WE GET HIS 450 AND A BIG CHAIN AND HOOK BOTH TRACTORS BACK TO BACK THE CHAIN TO THE BLADE AND THE CHAIN TO THE OTHER 450 DRAW BAR AND THIS IS A LOOONNNNGGGGG CHAIN PUT BOTH TRACTOR IN ROAD GEAR FULL THROTTEL AND BONZZI , well the blade came out and went WHY UP IN THE AIR and what goes up must come down , now just picture this 8 foot fast hitch blade at the end of a long chain about 25 feet up in the air moving in and arck good thing that there was a couple EXTRA notches on the throttel for more foward speed and a nice long field to TRY and run away from it . after the dust had setteled and everybodys knees stopped shaken we sorta looked at each other and like wooooow that was close.

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bear4work

03-06-2006 12:10:53




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 Re: Farmall H stability?? in reply to Janicholson, 03-06-2006 12:02:03  
you don"t have to listen to "em just be safe. You can pull out stumps with a Farmall H if and only if you hitch the chain to only the drawbar. I"ve tried it and it works. Also, keep your foot on the clutch and slowly ease off it in first gear. No dumping the clutch, that"s how you get hurt. Or, get a chain hook for the front and go in reverse, this is even safer as there is more wieght on the back. Have fun and be safe.

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the tractor vet

03-06-2006 12:29:59




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 Re: Farmall H stability?? in reply to bear4work, 03-06-2006 12:10:53  
Yep Read about people like you a couple times a year . I can see that you have never had a chain break or a cable break or a hook break , well i had a buch of chains break and was lucky enough to get out of the road of a cable and tailchain when the hook broke on it and go thru the 3/8 inch thick metal screen on the back of a dozer with enough force that it took the muffler and air cleaner off the dozer had a chain brake while pullen my buddy out of a soft spot in the field and the chain came back and over me and put a two inch deep dent in the fuel tank of a MD but it is ok.

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