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todd v.s 460

03-05-2006 07:17:39




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I have a 460 diesel, its a great tractor, other than the engine, it has always started hard but i"ve lived with that, now its not running on all 6 cylinders, sounds a little like a 2 cyl. JD at an idle, is that engine worth rebuilding? or are the some other engines out there that would work realitivly easy? I have limited money but i need it to feed my cows. Any input would be greatly appreciated. I live in southern michigan if someone has any ideas of a good place to get a different engine or rebuild parts. thanks for reading! todd

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the tractor vet

03-05-2006 07:50:59




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 Re: farmall 460 diesel in reply to todd v.s 460, 03-05-2006 07:17:39  
With out checking the compression and glow plugs as a start to see just what is going on this is a tough one . You could have cracked precombustion chambers bad injectors blowen head gskt. burnt valves broken rings or bad injection pump. there are other things that it could be .And yes the old glow plug engines were a bit hard starting even when warm out . As fo a chore tractor for winter use ya can beat and old gasser . yea they use gas but it is like this they are alot less to fix . To realy fix your 460 it is not going to be cheep as you have know idea what you are getting into and once your into it you have littel choise . as far as swappen the diesel out and going to a gasser there again it is not going to cheep even if you find a combine engine there are pices and parts that you will have to buy to make the swap. So if your like most people today and ya don't have a money tree growen ya might be ahead of the game to get another tractor that is in better shape and work on the 460 as you can and do it wright a littel at a time as money come avaible that way your not down and out and tryen to rush the job.

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Carp

03-05-2006 07:39:12




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 Re: farmall 460 diesel in reply to todd v.s 460, 03-05-2006 07:17:39  
I think that the engine in the 460 diesel is worth rebuilding. But I have a few questions.

When you roll the engine over to start it, does it sound like it has even compression on all 6 cylinders or like 1 cylinder is weak?

Is 1 cylinder missing or more than 1?

Does it get better or worse as it warms up?

Do you know if the head gasket is leaking?

Is it blowing a lot of white smoke?

You could have a fairly simple easy to fix issue. Did it start missing all of a sudden or just get worse over time?

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todd v.s 460

03-07-2006 19:18:54




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 Re: farmall 460 diesel in reply to Carp, 03-05-2006 07:39:12  
I'm not sure how many cylinders are not firing, it runs but its weak, at first it barely runs , you have to abuse the starter, but after 5 minutes or so it clears up a bit, at high idle it runs better than at low. i think the head gasket is ok , the radiator leaks a little i assume that why it get low over a long peroid of time. the oil is good, but if you take the cap/dipstick out while its running it spits out oil. And yes it smokes white/gray/black smoke terrible, it looks like its burning up on a calm day,yes it slowing has been getting worse overtime, but it makes an air compressor sound just after you put it under a load, you can hear that air sound when its turning over, one problem is probably causing another, i can't afford major rebuild, but i'm not affraid to tear it apart and fix whats wrong, i'm trying to round up a comp. tester, i guess i wrote this to see if anyone had anything good to say about that diesel engine , i've talked to a few guys that are familar with them, and they tell me how terrible the 460 came from the factory. however they are J.D guys, i live in green territory. but i can't imagine haveing to hold glowsplugs for 5 minutes and selling a brand new tractor, us farmers arn't that foggy, any ideas or comments about 460's are appreciated thanks todd

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Teddy Truster

03-18-2007 17:56:58




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 Re: farmall 460 diesel in reply to todd v.s 460, 03-07-2006 19:18:54  
I can tell you that it is the head gasket. I have one just like it and I finall blew my head gasket. Let it warm up and look for bubbles coming out from under the head.



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jossette

03-05-2006 07:25:27




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 Re: farmall 460 diesel in reply to todd v.s 460, 03-05-2006 07:17:39  
If the fuel filter has been changed and no fuel in the oil- probably injectors



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