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alfred

02-27-2006 21:02:59




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I heard from a reliable source today that they are putting animal fat in the diesel. Now I know why the neighbor went through so many filters and bad language this winter. They will try anything to save a buck.




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Dave NE IA

02-28-2006 23:20:39




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 Re: bio diesel BEWARE in reply to alfred, 02-27-2006 21:02:59  
This will probably tick some of you guys off, but we just ordered a new fire truck. I asked if it was capable to burn Boi fuel. There were two drivers that said to heck with that as it wasn't working out. CCX was one of the companies that had trucks down in the cold weather. If I understand they still want to use the Bio fuel, but it cost them alot of valuable down time, and a lot of towing. They are probably going back to it this spring. The big guys will have to decide that. Some comented on another post I made that it was just cleaning the system out etc. I started to mention that at another gathering, and decided that they were not in the mood for me to defend Bio fuel. Seems both guys that drove for CCX had to deal with down trucks, WITH new filters. I was TOLD our local feed mill tried it on a couple of trucks, and decided to perhaps wait till a few more bugs were worked out. They just had minor problems. Please do not start on me as these guys Want to use it---farmers make most our livings, They also pay alot of taxes to fund our fire department--just have problems---. Maybe you have had good luck. I'm just saying there are some with problems that have to be ironed out, and I have little doubt they will be worked out. I personaly feel that the government should insist if you get a government farm program check for crops, you better burn farm based fuel, as well as heat your houses, hog buildings, with corn burners, and use every other farm made product. Guess what guys it ain't gona happen because the bigger money trail goes to the Oil companies. So I say lets just hang in there and get as many punches in as we can. I have noticed this board many times gets in each others faces, It reminds me of my ex-inlaws where as if you were loosing the debate you could win by yelling louder, and yelling louder sure pointed out to everyone how much smarter you were. Not to mention if you made a personal attack you simply had to a genius. We all have different points of view, and I sure hope I did not step on anyones toes, as it was not my intent. Dave NE IA

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Fancy Farm

02-28-2006 20:28:35




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 Re: bio diesel BEWARE in reply to alfred, 02-27-2006 21:02:59  
Been using bio for 3 years no problem at all but in years past i have gotten some of the worst pure diesel you ever saw even had to have one tank pumped out after it stopped up every filter on the farm they will put anything in fuel to make a buck don't blame it on bio



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Don Brien

02-28-2006 19:18:52




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 Re: bio diesel BEWARE in reply to alfred, 02-27-2006 21:02:59  
I live up here in Norther Eastern wisconsin and we have been running bio diesel in both green and red tractors since 2004 and haven't had a lick of trouble out on any of them.



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Kevin Bismark

03-03-2006 19:22:30




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 Re: bio diesel BEWARE in reply to Don Brien, 02-28-2006 19:18:52  
I just don't understand why they played with the formula for this for 10 years and didn't plan on how it would work at -30 had to put a couple gallons of gas in the freightliner to get her running for a buddy when it was really cold out, think it's a great fuel since it is local but they should known about this since they played with it for so many years, at least they did here.



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Kevin Bismark

02-28-2006 17:24:50




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 Re: bio diesel BEWARE in reply to alfred, 02-27-2006 21:02:59  
Well, the state of Minnesota pulled it for a couple weeks when it got down below 0 a month ago, the one truck at work I was driving that day I don't drive that much but couldn't quite figure out why it didn't seam to have the same power, figured it out a couple day's later, must have been a week or so and then they were back selling it. One of the things that really made me scratch my head was an article in a news paper from Duluth that said the ships that were owned by some shipping company would no longer be filling up in Minnesota, made me wonder if it was salt water or water they were afraid of, or did they know something the rest of us didn't. I have ran several hunderd gallons through my ford and so far everything has been okay, would like to see how it's made, and would be nice to see the arabs sit in the sand alone, but don't think that will happen for a few years but at least there is a little more money that can stay in this country.
Kevin

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RustyFarmall

02-28-2006 14:25:39




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 Re: bio diesel BEWARE in reply to alfred, 02-27-2006 21:02:59  
We get folks on here from time to time that insist on bad-mouthing bio-diesel and ethanol. It makes me wonder just which of the big oil companies you guys are working for?



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IaGary

02-28-2006 05:23:37




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 Re: bio diesel BEWARE in reply to alfred, 02-27-2006 21:02:59  
Alfred I think you are preaching to the wrong choir here on this forum.
I along with most farmers I beleive in using what we grow.
If you are getting animal fat in your bio diesel you better quit using that supplier but dont condemn all bio diesel.
I use B5 or 5% bio diesel since 2004 in all my equipment to farm about 1100 acres of crops with no problems.
Ethanol was the same way when it first came out it had a few bad raps but look at it now.
If it wasn't for ethanol we wouldn't have any corn market and gas would be much much higger than it is today.
I will continue to use bio diesel.
Have a good day.

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alfred

02-28-2006 15:27:20




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 Re: bio diesel BEWARE in reply to IaGary, 02-28-2006 05:23:37  
as you know, you are in a warmer climate than up here on the border. fat will run through it easier when its hot than frigid cold. I bet it wont be long and they will have a news flash. I've talked to people in the dakotas, minnesota and wisconsin. all say the same thing, where it is cold, the bio- does not go in the tank.



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RustyFarmall

02-28-2006 17:21:32




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 Re: bio diesel BEWARE in reply to alfred, 02-28-2006 15:27:20  
It's not all that warm here in Iowa either, but no one I know has ever had trouble with the bio-diesel.



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Wayne from Illinois

02-27-2006 23:04:12




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 Re: bio diesel BEWARE in reply to alfred, 02-27-2006 21:02:59  
Bio diesel is known to clean all kinds of stuff out of the fuel lines.tank etc.I run bio diesel a lot and have only had to change one filter due to clogging in over a year.Running bio in a 2005 Silverado Dually and love the stuff.Only had trouble once with a filter clogging up due to bio cleaning stuff out of the fuel system on this fairly new truck at the time.Have never had any problems since and the fuel filer is changed every 15,000 miles.

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Kevin Bismark

02-28-2006 17:33:51




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 Re: bio diesel BEWARE in reply to Wayne from Illinois, 02-27-2006 23:04:12  
I thought I had herd someone say that the bio diesel cleaned things out, but had forgot about it until I read your post, I had a fuel filter on my ford plug up last fall, thought it was strange, nice and warm out, and not many miles since I had changed it, took a sample and had it tested and it was okay. Guess I will just make sure I have a couple extra filter in the truck in case, but would think it's clean now, but will really want one if I have to drive it when it's really cold out, still remember dealing with the diesel engines when it was 50 below..

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Wayne From Illinois

02-28-2006 17:50:23




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 Re: bio diesel BEWARE in reply to Kevin Bismark, 02-28-2006 17:33:51  
Hi Kevin, Wow i don't want to even think about 50 below 0 ouch.I love how the scare tactics of rumors go around about bio diesel.I would rather support our farmers by using bio especially since it gets the job done.Yes usually when you first start using bio diesel it will loosen up stuff in the fuel system.Once it cleans everything out it seems to not ever be a problem again.The 2005 Silverado i mentioned in my post had very few miles on it when it plugged its filter but have had no problems since.That told me that there was some grit or something in the fuel system from when the truck was made and was proved out when the filter was cut open.I also use bio diesel in a 2001 E-350 that pulls a 20 ft cargo trailer most of the time and have never experienced a plugged filter with it.

Those who cry that bio diesel is bad i think must have a connection with the oil companies and visit many boards trying there best to scare people out of using alliterative fuels.Not saying the original poster is guilty of this as he just repeated what he was told.There is no problem with bio diesel because if there was i wouldn't be using it as i don't like setting along the road waiting for a service truck to get to me in the middle of the night!Bio is great and i feel good using it to each there own i guess but some of the rumors going around about bio are just plain silly!

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Kevin Bismark

03-01-2006 17:42:31




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 Re: bio diesel BEWARE in reply to Wayne From Illinois , 02-28-2006 17:50:23  
Hi Wayne I don't expect any problems with it, just a new product, have to admit the plugged fuel filter threw me for a loop, just realized after I went up to bed that I have been burning it in the tractor since last fall, that was when ever it was first available here, still wish we could make them eat their sand and drink their oil, would be something if I live to see the day that they have to really work to find a buyer for their oil...

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jossette

02-28-2006 19:15:15




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 Re: bio diesel BEWARE in reply to Wayne From Illinois , 02-28-2006 17:50:23  
I took a sample of bio home today and let it sit in a jar for a few hours. There is some thing moving in it. I have it next to a jar with #2 fuel and that is still as a mouse. You can not tell me that bean oil will make the diesel come alive. What are they putting in the diesel??



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colekicker

02-27-2006 21:15:20




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 Re: bio diesel BEWARE in reply to alfred, 02-27-2006 21:02:59  
Haha!! Do you like McDonald's french fries. A few years back they were cooked in animal oil also. Reason why, it took longer for the oil to go bad because of an extra kink in the structure of the molecule. They get told they can't use animal oil and have to use vegetable oil. So, what does McD's do? They convert it to hydrogenated vegatable oil, giving it the same basic molecular structure as the animal oil, so it will last just as long.
This is no just a HOAX. This was in the lecture of my animal science class in the spring of 2002.

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