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SuperHank

02-17-2006 08:32:40




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I'm about to replace the fan shroud (never had one since I bought it and I'm second owner). When disking in summer it is not unusual to run at 210 degrees. Will the shroud move temps down? What should normal summer operating temps be? Thanks




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larrystg2

02-17-2006 12:55:08




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 Re: Operating Temperature SuperH in reply to SuperHank, 02-17-2006 08:32:40  
The shroud will definitely help it run cooler.



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CNKS

02-17-2006 12:08:52




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 Re: Operating Temperature SuperH in reply to SuperHank, 02-17-2006 08:32:40  
If you are running at 210, shroud or not, shift down a gear. If you are already running in 2nd, and don't want to put up with the slow speed of 1st, then your disk is too big for the tractor, or your cooling system is needs cleaning. The H/M, Super H/M, etc will run hot when pushed close to their limits in 90-100 degree air temperature.



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Rod M.

02-17-2006 10:52:13




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 Re: Operating Temperature SuperH in reply to SuperHank, 02-17-2006 08:32:40  
Just replaced the thermostat in my W-4 (same motor as an H) apparently they are supposed to be at 160 degrees f and that is what mines seems to hold for now ..and it has a shroud



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gene bender

02-17-2006 10:44:09




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 Re: Operating Temperature SuperH in reply to SuperHank, 02-17-2006 08:32:40  
Get shroud and you will see temps go down as that is why one is supposed to be there to make fan pull air thru radiator for cooling better as thats the way fans work is pulling air thru a venturi for greater flow,



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Andrew Z

02-17-2006 09:20:42




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 Re: Operating Temperature SuperH in reply to SuperHank, 02-17-2006 08:32:40  
I just replaced the shroud on Our 54 Super H and its not that fun to do. I thought that I could sneek it in without removing to much, but that was not the case. Anyway I think that will decrease the running temp alittle bit, since the fan will have more vaccume ablity. And for what this matters it will direct more of the "wind" to the block and not all over the place. As for the right temp, Our SuperH, H, Super C, dont run very hot at all like 140 degress in the summer, Yet the A and Allis B Get right up there 165 180 or so. Andrew

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BillyinStoughton

02-17-2006 11:54:02




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 Re: Operating Temperature SuperH in reply to Andrew Z , 02-17-2006 09:20:42  
Nat 2 is right on the money with that. I will say one thing though, it is not that tough to get the shroud around the fan and get it into position on the radiator. I have a very late 52" H (389442 X1) that has the same pedestal and radiator as your Super, and with a moderate amount of patience and a little bit of massaging, you should be able to get that shroud in place in a manner of minutes. Be sure to turn the fan so as to allow you the most space as you put the shroud in place. If you are buying a shroud, be sure to get the four long through bolts that secure it in place. The correct bolts will save you some time in the final stages of assembly. I would recommend knocking the hood and grill off if you haven't already as it will speed things up and only requires five minutes to do.

Good luck!

Billy

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Andrew Z

02-17-2006 12:09:34




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 Re: Operating Temperature SuperH in reply to BillyinStoughton, 02-17-2006 11:54:02  
Oh I got it on, but it took alittle longer than I thouht. I took off the grill, radaitor supports, themostat housing, alternator, pretty much everting except the raditior itself. O well its done right now. Andrew



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BillyinStoughton

02-17-2006 12:24:17




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 Re: Operating Temperature SuperH in reply to Andrew Z , 02-17-2006 12:09:34  
Yeah, it's not a fun job by any stretch is it. We must consider ourselves lucky with the late model H and Super's though...at least they have the two access holes in the bolster to remove the radiator. I cringe at the though of removing a radiator from any of the early letter series!

Have a great weekend...I know I am going to spend most of it shoveling out of the fourteen or fifteen inches they said we got!

Billy

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BillyinStoughton

02-17-2006 11:51:45




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 Re: Operating Temperature SuperH in reply to Andrew Z , 02-17-2006 09:20:42  
Nat 2 is right on the money with that. I will say one thing though, it is not that tough to get the shroud around the fan and get it into position on the radiator. I have a very late 52" H (389442 X1) that has the same pedestal and radiator as your Super, and with a moderate amount of patience and a little bit of massaging, you should be able to get that shroud in place in a manner of minutes. Be sure to turn the fan so as to allow you the most space as you put the shroud in place. If you are buying a shroud, be sure to get the four long through bolts that secure it in place. The correct bolts will save you some time in the final stages of assembly.

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Nat 2

02-17-2006 09:46:32




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 Re: Operating Temperature SuperH in reply to Andrew Z , 02-17-2006 09:20:42  
The air blowing back over the block from the fan does little or nothing to cool the engine. Most of the cooling is through the water in the radiator, and a proper shroud will force all the air sucked up by the fan to come through the radiator. THAT is where you'll see any gains from the shroud.

Without the shroud, the fan can suck air in from the sides, BEHIND the radiator, which does absolutely no good to cool the water in the radiator.

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old

02-17-2006 09:14:30




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 Re: Operating Temperature SuperH in reply to SuperHank, 02-17-2006 08:32:40  
The should will probably help some, also a good flushing of the system will probably help. I'd guess that 210 is a little on the hot side for it. I'd flush the system with vinagar, had a tractor a few years back that would run very hot and after I flushed the system with vinagar it hasn't got hot since.



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