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Erik in WI

02-08-2006 13:36:57




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Has anyone else been having trouble like this? Our gas tractors haven"t been running well since our gas delivery place started selling alcohol blended gas. seems to be destroying carbs like mad. Only place left to buy gas with no alcohol is at the airport, at $3.50 a gallon!




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Mr. Farmall

02-08-2006 20:55:40




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 Re: Alcohol in gas in reply to Erik in WI, 02-08-2006 13:36:57  
A lot of the time the soft parts in carbs are not made to be used with Alcohol in the gas. I don't know if anybody makes soft part that can stand up to alcohol for tractors.



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Janicholson

02-08-2006 14:35:58




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 Re: Alcohol in gas in reply to Erik in WI, 02-08-2006 13:36:57  
Ehhanol is fine and will clean crud (though temporarily bothersome not an issue. High speed and Idle may need 1/2 turn richer or so.
Methanol is the bad very bad type of alcohol.
JimN



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RustyFarmall

02-08-2006 14:02:16




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 Re: Alcohol in gas in reply to Erik in WI, 02-08-2006 13:36:57  
The ethanol is cleaning out the crud, that is all, and ethanol will NOT destroy a carburetor.



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Erik in WI

02-08-2006 15:23:31




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 Re: Alcohol in gas in reply to RustyFarmall, 02-08-2006 14:02:16  
Ethanol in the gas is destroying the rubber diaphram on the accelerator pump in the carb on our 4020, causing the motor to run way to rich. never happened before, now it goes out all the darn time.



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RN

02-11-2006 19:13:29




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 Re: Alcohol in gas in reply to Erik in WI, 02-08-2006 15:23:31  
Gasahol destroy diaphram? Known problem on Holley and couple other carbs with diaphram pump, check JD if carb has a alcahol use retrofit kit available- this will have a ethanol resistant diaphram, seals, gaskets. Nasty incidents with some cars stalling at the lights from eaten diaphrams in late 70s/early 80s- 6 cylinder Chrysler, some AMC/Jeep, some Fords. Chev plunger pumps not as suseptable. If can't get carb fixed, maybe need to change carb to GM pattern- might be impractical? RN

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Wayne Swenson

02-08-2006 20:43:19




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 Re: Alcohol in gas in reply to Erik in WI, 02-08-2006 15:23:31  
I have used Ethanol blended gasoline in all my equipment since the 1970"s when it was called "gasahol". Cars, trucks, tractors, chainsaw, snowmobile, motorcycle, lawn mower, snowblower, etc, I replaced a couple fuel filters and that was it. Never add gas de-icer anymore either with 10% Ethanol in the fuel.
Check your supplier & see if they are using Ethanol or some cheap substitute and then ask your friendly John Deere dealer for the newer parts that are resistant to Ethanol.
If you are using aftermarket carb parts, they may not be quality items.

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