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Farming with old iron..... value of 966

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farmallwayne

02-08-2006 04:27:42




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Hello all,

I got a question for you.

I am looking at getting a black stripe 966 that is in real good shape. It has factory cab. Hours are just about right. It appears to be a cared for machine. If I get it I am going to end up putting a loader on it for occasional loader use. It will be used as main tractor on 200 acer beef cattle farm. Running discbine round baler and such. My question is, is it wort it I am looking at 9,999 for the tractor and another 3,500 for a loader and plumbing. Thats close to 14,000 for a 30 year 100hp tractor. That sounds like a lot to me but if I price a new or newer one we are looking at 20-30 thousand.

What do we think, am I crazy for putting close to 14,000 in a 30 year old tractor???

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josh 15

02-09-2006 11:37:22




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 Re: Farming with old iron..... value of 966 in reply to farmallwayne, 02-08-2006 04:27:42  
That is a great tractor we used a 966 for many years and put around 6000 hrs on it before tradeing.Me and my father own a 900 acre cotton and peanut farm in south georgia.A tractor that old isn't worth that around here.A high price would be 7000 and i would not even pay that because of the age and wear and tear on the motor and transmission.If i was going to buy it 5000 would be desent price.



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vernMN

02-09-2006 01:53:44




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 Re: Farming with old iron..... value of 966 in reply to farmallwayne, 02-08-2006 04:27:42  
The 966 is a right sized tractor for what you are intending. I use mine for about the same jobs you are and she is right sized. I do not have a loader on as I use my 460 for that, however have thought about it if I go for another tractor slightly bigger. My 966 was a little cheaper,and less than 3000 hours, plus I knew it from the day it came on the original owners farm.



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Steven@AZ

02-08-2006 08:19:25




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 Re: Farming with old iron..... value of 966 in reply to farmallwayne, 02-08-2006 04:27:42  
For the money, you are getting a decent deal. My brother just spent right at $13,500 for just a loader that fits on the 2590 Case.

I ran a 966 while working for a friend for a little over 2 years. Nice size tractor, and the shifting is WAY better than an 06 series or 86 series tractor. In my opinion for a gearshift tractor from IH, the 56 and 66 series had the easiest. We use our 1256 for most of the loader work, 2nd gear high and reverse works out just about right.

As far as price on the tractor, the friend's 966 had around 5500 hours on it, was in nice shape and had a recent clutch job and sold for $13,000 on the auction sale. It was always stored inside and looked like it had a fresh coat of wax on it - but didn't, the original paint was still that good.

Personally I say go for it. You won't find much more in the way of a loader and tractor for that price.

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captaink

02-08-2006 07:02:16




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 Re: Farming with old iron..... value of 966 in reply to farmallwayne, 02-08-2006 04:27:42  
I was reading the reply from Baelee05 and it jogged a few thoughts. I put a loader on a 966 and I have to agree that the shifting can get to be a touch aggravating however, if you get into the habit of getting into neutral JUST before you stop moving it helps. Keep the transmission brake set up and it will go into gear fairly easy.

Make sure that it has a water filter on it and if possible find out if it has been changed and how often or if radiator treatment has been used in the anti-freeze. Cavitation of the sleeves and or block is a common issue in the early X66 series.

Once I put the loader on my 966 I started having problems with clutches. The damper springs in the clutch would break and start to fall out and jam things up. I finally put a flywheel and clutch in from a 1466 (get the hydraulic assisted one if you can) and had a custom made clutch that had fiber pads instead of the ceramic ones. This made it shift a LOT easier AND ended my clutch issues. I’m not sure if the bigger clutch or the fiber pads did the trick since I did both at the same time.

I don’t mean to scare you away, just want to let you know my experience. I like the loader on the 966, it’s not terribly awkward, and with a bale fork on the back it will handle 2 big round bales just fine.

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Allan in NE

02-08-2006 05:47:55




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 Re: Farming with old iron..... value of 966 in reply to farmallwayne, 02-08-2006 04:27:42  
Wayne,

My rule is cost of tractor plus all needed repairs should not total more than the tractor's original selling price. You've got a lot of headroom yet at $14K for the two.

You'll never touch a new tractor and loader (that sized) for 20-30 thousand.

Go buy your tractor, put an engine and clutch in it and then run it for another 30 years. You'll be money ahead.

Allan



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Sloroll

02-08-2006 04:41:36




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 Re: Farming with old iron..... value of 966 in reply to farmallwayne, 02-08-2006 04:27:42  
Have you priced the new 100hp tractors? I grew up on a 966 and they are a great machine. I am sure there will be someone to argue that point as there always is. They are built to grunt though. Every once in awhile you'll want to take it out and pull it near it's limit just to keep it's knees streched. Ours was owned for 30 years with no maintanence issues other than oil and filter changes. We pulled 5 bottoms and an offset disk with it in the spring and pulled the sunshine spreader with it all summer, fall and winter.

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Baelee05

02-08-2006 04:38:51




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 Re: Farming with old iron..... value of 966 in reply to farmallwayne, 02-08-2006 04:27:42  
Well it depends. That is about the right size tractor for your operation. You could get by with a smaller one but it is nice to have the extra power once in a while. The price is high unless the tractor is in pristine condition. When buying this old iron we need to keep in mind that if something major should happen it will get pricey. I'm not saying you shouldn't buy the tractor. Just keep the idea in the back of your mind that you COULD have some pricey repairs. Lets hope not. If you really like the tractor and you don't want to spend much more than that I think you should try to get the price down a little and go for it. Spending money on the loader would be a non issue in this case. You can pretty much always get your money out of a good loader. It doesn't have to stay with the tractor. Personally I don't care for that type of tractor for loader work. A little awkward and hard shifting when doing a lot of backing up and going forward.

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jpsep

02-08-2006 07:20:16




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 Re: Farming with old iron..... value of 966 in reply to Baelee05, 02-08-2006 04:38:51  
Check the t/a before you buy. Put it in 2nd high or 3rd high run the rpms darn near full with the t/a in the high side mash the brakes and pull back on the lever if it locks right up it is good. if it slips any at all your ta is bad or going bad. Ran one for years with the handle off in high range till we got enough cash to fix it.



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