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I need a mesuring tool.

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Kelly C

01-17-2006 15:28:20




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I need a tool to mesure the rod jornals and such. What do I need to get?
Preferably one that does not cost a arm and a leg.
Oh and where?




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jonny gunn

01-20-2006 21:28:10




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 Re: I need a mesuring tool. in reply to Kelly C, 01-17-2006 15:28:20  
you arr a tool



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Paul in Mich

01-17-2006 18:28:39




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 Re: I need a mesuring tool. in reply to Kelly C, 01-17-2006 15:28:20  
Kelly, For most rod journals, you can get by with 2 micrometers. One being a 1-2 inch, the other being a 2-3 inch. For farm use, they don"t have to be of Starret quality, but rigid nonetheless. I have bought most of my measuring tools from pawn shops, and have ended up with top quality at bargain basement prices. To measure the Inside dimensions of rod bearings and such, an inexpensive set of telescoping gauges will do the trick, as you can transfer the measurement to your outside mics. If you were measuring closer than + or - .001 you would want high quality measuring tools, but in most applications on the farm, including rod journals, you are measuring + or - .001 or larger. As some have suggested, dial calipers will measure that close, but they are somewhat more cumbersome and prone to be misread when removed from the subject. Plus they are hard to measure roundness.

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BillWV

01-17-2006 18:12:14




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 Re: I need a mesuring tool. in reply to Kelly C, 01-17-2006 15:28:20  
You can practice with a micrometer by using a feeler gauge (a known thickness) and setting the mic to that thickness and feeling the drag. As one of the other posts says, it is a skill and must be practiced to use a micrometer consistently.

Just because a caliper will read to a certain precision doesn't mean it is accurate to that extent. Need micrometers for better precision.

I learned a lot about precision measurements when reloading for target rifles.

Good luck,
Bill

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the tractor vet

01-17-2006 16:43:41




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 Re: I need a mesuring tool. in reply to Kelly C, 01-17-2006 15:28:20  
Just looked at a flyer from Cummins tools the traveling clown tool show they have listed a set of 1-3 3 pice mic set for 29.99



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the tractor vet

01-17-2006 16:39:20




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 Re: I need a mesuring tool. in reply to Kelly C, 01-17-2006 15:28:20  
They have the set of three mic's from 1 inch to 3 inch for under 40 bucks in some of the tool cat. that i get yea there made in chinia but they work ya just have to check them and set them as they are a bit off when ya get them . and you can by a 4 inch for around twenty buck that way you have it covered and a set of inside mic's would also be a big help.



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Kelly C

01-17-2006 16:49:23




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 Re: I need a mesuring tool. in reply to the tractor vet, 01-17-2006 16:39:20  
All right. I have to go to the cities tomorow any way. I guess I will pick up a set. You may get your wish and I may have to pull that C263. The number 5 rod bearing seemed a bit loose to me. I thought the old bearing looked a bit squashed out when I pulled it.
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the tractor vet

01-17-2006 16:56:13




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 Re: I need a mesuring tool. in reply to Kelly C, 01-17-2006 16:49:23  
Yep, that is why i try and give GOOD advice as i have already been there and done that . Now when one comes down before i order anything the mic's come out and the note pad is layed out and we start micen and writen then if things are not just what they should be then it is off to the machine shop with the block rods crank cam head and flywheel and call me when your done with the crank so i can get the bearing oh well we'll get them for Nah i'll get them myself .

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rtm

01-17-2006 16:07:23




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 Re: I need a mesuring tool. in reply to Kelly C, 01-17-2006 15:28:20  
a electronic caliper is a better choice since it can measure inside and outside sizes from (0) up to 6in with a digital readout most are able to read standred and metric any place that sell's ammo reloading equipment would have one or check out grizzley tools they have them also i got mine off of ebay.com for under $25 shiped to my house



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Janicholson

01-17-2006 16:39:08




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 Re: I need a mesuring tool. in reply to rtm, 01-17-2006 16:07:23  
RTM, With respect, I agree that a caliper is a fine tool, I own several. The issue is measuring round things, and though they can (up to about 2.25" or so, the diameter gets in the way of larger measurement.
they are also more difficult to pull off and read accurately without bumping and messing up the reading.
I'll stick to the "C" shaped mics for the precision engine work described in the post.
JimN

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Kelly C

01-17-2006 16:36:03




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 Re: I need a mesuring tool. in reply to rtm, 01-17-2006 16:07:23  
That sounds like what I am after.
If my rod jornal was suppose to be 2.373

So if you measure with that. You would read the 2 inch from the rule and 373 from the read out?



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Janicholson

01-17-2006 15:56:43




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 Re: I need a mesuring tool. in reply to Kelly C, 01-17-2006 15:28:20  
I like a nice set of digital micrometers, including:
0-1", 1-2", 2-3", and 3-4". these will do the majority of measuring O.D.s. To measure I.D.s I use a set of telescopic inside transfer tools. these are placed in the I.D. and locked to length, then measured with the micrometers above.
Older micrometer sets are OK but require more thinking and practice to use (read) accurately.
Much of the process is the Feel of the tool on the parts, being consistant and uniform in the placement of the spindle and anvil (tool parts that touch the part being measured).
Mitutoyo, Brown and Sharp, and Starrett are nice tools.
JimN

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RustyFarmall

01-17-2006 15:53:23




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 Re: I need a mesuring tool. in reply to Kelly C, 01-17-2006 15:28:20  
Kelly, you need a micrometer. This is a precision measuring instrument, capable of measuring to the .001" of an inch, or even finer increments if you desire. Micrometers are furnished in 0 to 1 inch size, 1 to 2 inch, 2 to 3, etc. These are a very fine and precise measuring instrument, they require a bit of training to use properly and give accurate readings, and also require special care and handling. It's been awhile since I bought one, but a quality mic. in the size you need would run somewhere around $100 I think. Less expensive brands are out there, but I question the quality. E-Bay is full of them, but again, are they good? This might be a good time to take your crankshaft to town and pay a machinist to analyze it.

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sammy the RED

01-17-2006 15:51:46




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 Re: I need a mesuring tool. in reply to Kelly C, 01-17-2006 15:28:20  
Micrometer.



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