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DOT CDL Nebraska Farm Plates

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Nebraska Cowman

01-16-2006 09:54:53




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So.... What's the deal? Commercial trucks over 26,000 GVW are required to have CDL and DOT to cross state line. But if this is farm plated then it's not commercial, Right? Does anybody in Nebraska know?
I'm tyin' to get the state patrol to email me.
I don't mind get a CDL but whaere does it all stop?
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Ron in Nebr

01-16-2006 22:37:15




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 Re: DOT CDL Nebraska Farm Plates in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 01-16-2006 09:54:53  
Howard, I can"t help ya much. On my 1-ton dually with farm plates I"ve never had a problem, even pulling trailers out of the state...course, I"ve never been stopped...

As for the guys telling you to liscence it as an RV, not a bad idea, but there"s some "gotchas" there too. State Patrol has been cracking down on alot of the stock car racers who have a semi converted into a camper and pulling a big trailer and liscenced as an RV...seems there"s a length limit they nail "em on....

Ya might best go to your county courthouse and get the full scoop. Good luck- nice hauler ya got there!

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Brian Schmidt

01-16-2006 20:00:49




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 Re: DOT CDL Nebraska Farm Plates in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 01-16-2006 09:54:53  
I don't know about Nebraska, but here in Illinois, if you have a CDL, the blood alcohol level is 1/2 the normal legal limit. That goes if you are driving a big rig or a S-10 pickup. So here in IL that is 1 beer and you are a DUI.



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NDS

01-16-2006 16:07:23




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 Re: DOT CDL Nebraska Farm Plates in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 01-16-2006 09:54:53  
CDL regulations are mandated by Federal Goverment. States can make theie regulations more restrictive than Federal regulations but not less.

For what it is worth-- This is Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administrations definition.
Farm vehicle driver means a person who drives only a commercial vehicle that is----
(a) controled and operated as a private motor carrier of property.
(b) Being used to transport either--
(b)(1) Agricultural products, or
(b)(2) Farm machinery, farm supplies or both, to and from a farm.
(c) Not being used in the operation of a for hire motor carrier.
(d)Not carrying hazardous materials of a type or quanity that requies the commercial motot vehicle to be placarded in accordance with 177.823 of this subtitle, and
(e) Being used within 150 air miles of the farmers farm.
Farmer means any person who operates a farm or is directly involved in the cultivation of land, crops or livestock which--
(a)Are owned by that person, or
(b)Are under the direct control of that person.

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jossette

01-16-2006 14:34:58




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 Re: DOT CDL Nebraska Farm Plates in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 01-16-2006 09:54:53  
All "commercial" vehicles must have DOT inspection and have a CDL to operate. The only way farm plates apply across state lines is if you are going to a farm in which you own. Farm plates have a radious of 75 miles or 7500 miles a year. If you are going have a trailor, I get the class A CDL so there are no misshaps with the troopers.

With commercial plates, the plates are more expensive and make sure that when you register the truck the cab card has all the states you wish to go in. Further more, you then have to pay a $500 heavy use tax every July and buy a IFTA (interstate federal tax ) sticker ($30) and keep track of all miles and $ of fuel in every state you go. Your a big rig now so practice bending over. I did it for years so if you need help, call.

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NDS

01-16-2006 11:59:41




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 Re: DOT CDL Nebraska Farm Plates in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 01-16-2006 09:54:53  
For official information on CDL requirements do a Google search for "Nebaska CDL regulations">choose Nebraska State Patrol. There are 2 seperate listings and both have some good information.
Hope this helps.



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jpsep

01-16-2006 11:21:49




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 Re: DOT CDL Nebraska Farm Plates in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 01-16-2006 09:54:53  
any truck with air brakes over 26000 pounds must have a cdl with or without farm tags!!!



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MN Scott

01-16-2006 16:56:49




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 Re: DOT CDL Nebraska Farm Plates in reply to jpsep, 01-16-2006 11:21:49  
Not in MN.



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Tractor Dan

01-16-2006 13:28:46




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 Re: DOT CDL Nebraska Farm Plates in reply to jpsep, 01-16-2006 11:21:49  
not sure if its legal but i drove farm trucks before i got my cdl but had agr. plates it one was tandem ford 9000 guy up the road has 2 tandem internationals and 1 tri axle mack that his sons drive all over haulin feed and sawdust i think the oldest is 17 youngest is 14



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Allan in NE

01-16-2006 11:01:52




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 Re: DOT CDL Nebraska Farm Plates in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 01-16-2006 09:54:53  
I dunno, but damn! That turned into a nice outfit! Whew!

Allan



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Nebraska Cowman

01-16-2006 10:52:32




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 Re: DOT CDL Nebraska Farm Plates in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 01-16-2006 09:54:53  
I just talked to a buddy here and he says I can pull anything as long as it is gooseneck hitch and not 5th wheel. But it still seems like I will have to stay in-state. That might not be all bad.



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the tractor vet

01-16-2006 10:43:57




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 Re: DOT CDL Nebraska Farm Plates in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 01-16-2006 09:54:53  
This CDL thing is so screwed up it is what ever they fell like on that day with my old ford F350 4X4 one ton dually and my tandem dual goose neck here in the buckeye i had to have a CDL even with Non Com plates as the total GVW was over the 26000 even if i did not haul that heavy as they said it was the intent and i had to have the Medical card to go along with it , Now as for the FARM plat you could not go out of state even if you had field just across state line and could not go over 160 miles from your door step . But now if you have a tolit and shower and somany Gal. of water and a stove and bed then you can call it a RV-motorhome and pull what ever but they are getting wise to this and it is comming that OK it's and RV but you can only pull a CAR trailer with ONLY car for transportation not for show or a coverted SEMI tractor pullen a semi trailer with your toys as they are loosen money on the road tax and plate fees and the insurance companys are loosen the money on the BIG RIG insurance and the extra money on the drivers licences and Phisical as everybody is starting to do this with there pullen tractors and trucks and all the weekend drag racersand other motor sports. and them A$$ holes in the scales miss seeing you smiling faces as they write out boguess fines.

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stroked550

01-16-2006 14:27:14




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 Re: DOT CDL Nebraska Farm Plates in reply to the tractor vet, 01-16-2006 10:43:57  
I run farm plates on my truck (F-550) in Ohio, I"m listed for 40k gross. I can run almost anwhere in the state without a CDL, but when you cross state lines with farm plates all of the commercial rules apply. Fuel sticker, CDL, physical card, ect. The Medina county sheriff and the hwy. patrol put on a seminar last winter to help clear all of this up. Dont know if the farm tag rules are different in other states..

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the tractor vet

01-16-2006 16:04:56




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 Re: DOT CDL Nebraska Farm Plates in reply to stroked550, 01-16-2006 14:27:14  
Oh realy the state patrol was having a field day on the tractor pullen boys with there 1 ton duellys and there tandem dual trailers busted a bunch and impounded a bunch for no CDL , i was stopped the night before the CDL went into effect by a State cop on Rt. 9 i had my trailer and a 706 on and was INFORMED that come midnight that i could no longer pull my trailer haulen my tractor as the truck was 11000 GVW and the trailer was 18000 GVW equals out to 29000 GVW well i had a chauffers that i was going to let go by the wayside and just have a regular divers lic. so my buddys would stop asken me to drive there big trucks well i spent the next two day running around tryen to get in and take the STUIPED CDL TEST that waisted almost and hour of my time and also even though you may have a Farm plate or a non com plate on your truck you still only can run the double nickel on Ohio highway as i was INformed by a state cop that did not see the homor in the responce that i gave him when he told me that i could not drive 65 pullen the trailer . Now you may be getting away with it but they will let you know and since my one brothers wife 's brother is a State cop and we Have Had this talk before if you truck and trailer is over the 26000 GVW then you must have a CDL as far as the medical card might as well sure is cheeper the a tow and storage charge because they will not release it till you show proof of the CDL.

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stroked550

01-18-2006 20:31:36




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 Re: DOT CDL Nebraska Farm Plates in reply to the tractor vet, 01-16-2006 16:04:56  
Is your truck plated commercial? Any commercial plated trucks over 26k require a CDL, farm and non-com do not. Farm plates do not require a CDL, all of the other rules do apply though- 55mph on highways and all of the weight laws. The cops are checking tire ratings on trailers as well- many trailers with 7k axles are only running 10 ply tires (235-85r16), that only gets you 6084# per axle, that almostt got me last month.

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the tractor vet

01-16-2006 16:04:45




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 Re: DOT CDL Nebraska Farm Plates in reply to stroked550, 01-16-2006 14:27:14  
Oh realy the state patrol was having a field day on the tractor pullen boys with there 1 ton duellys and there tandem dual trailers busted a bunch and impounded a bunch for no CDL , i was stopped the night before the CDL went into effect by a State cop on Rt. 9 i had my trailer and a 706 on and was INFORMED that come midnight that i could no longer pull my trailer haulen my tractor as the truck was 11000 GVW and the trailer was 18000 GVW equals out to 29000 GVW well i had a chauffers that i was going to let go by the wayside and just have a regular divers lic. so my buddys would stop asken me to drive there big trucks well i spent the next two day running around tryen to get in and take the STUIPED CDL TEST that waisted almost and hour of my time and also even though you may have a Farm plate or a non com plate on your truck you still only can run the double nickel on Ohio highway as i was INformed by a state cop that did not see the homor in the responce that i gave him when he told me that i could not drive 65 pullen the trailer . Now you may be getting away with it but they will let you know and since my one brothers wife 's brother is a State cop and we Have Had this talk before if you truck and trailer is over the 26000 GVW then you must have a CDL as far as the medical card might as well sure is cheeper the a tow and storage charge because they will not release it till you show proof of the CDL.

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Dave Slater

01-16-2006 10:40:22




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 Re: DOT CDL Nebraska Farm Plates in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 01-16-2006 09:54:53  
If you could get it registered as a RV it would be better.Build a slide out room behind sleeper.



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MN Scott

01-16-2006 10:19:05




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 Re: DOT CDL Nebraska Farm Plates in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 01-16-2006 09:54:53  
Not sure about Nebraska but in MN a farm plate with its exemption from CDL regs is only good in state. If I cross state lines the farm plate basically turns into a commercial plate and all CDL regs apply.



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old

01-16-2006 10:15:18




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 Re: DOT CDL Nebraska Farm Plates in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 01-16-2006 09:54:53  
I know this might not help, but here in Missouri if a truck is for farm you don't/didn't have to have a CDL. Now as far as crossing state lines then it get in the the federal system and thats really a mess. You might pick up a CDL drivers manual and look it over I know the ones down here list who has to have what to go where.



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Jimmy King

01-16-2006 11:55:57




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 Re: DOT CDL Nebraska Farm Plates in reply to old, 01-16-2006 10:15:18  
This may have changed, but a few years ago I was in a farm meeting and the speaker was the superviser at the now extink Strafford Scales. In MO farm plates on anything used on your farm only. If you haul your neighbors tractor the the shop for repair, even with no charge you best get proof that it is your tractor, not your neighbors. If you own the truck no matter the size you do not need a CDL however if you have a hired hand he must for over #26000, and a Class E for under #26000. Any size truck from MO, with farm plates and doing your farm buisness may go allover the nation. Just for a drive NO. A truck with farm plates may pull an RV any where except MN. As I said this has been a few years and I don't keep up with the farm thing any more, so a lot of it could have been changed. The CDL is nothing more than a National I D and another way to milk truck driver because we are cash cows.

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Harold H

01-16-2006 10:13:44




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 Re: DOT CDL Nebraska Farm Plates in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 01-16-2006 09:54:53  
I don't know about Nebraska, but in Georgia if it is a farm truck or a antique truck with antique plates, you do not have to have a CDL. Regardless of size. Kind of like a big motor home (CDL not required) vs any size commercial bus, even very small, does have to have CDL in Georgia.

Harold H



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ChadS

01-16-2006 14:25:34




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 Re: DOT CDL Nebraska Farm Plates in reply to Harold H, 01-16-2006 10:13:44  
Indiana requires a CDL for vehicles 26,000+ and air brakes. Different classifications for different vehicles though,,, Say like for a straight truck, with air brakes, no trailer, that falls under a class B licence. Class a is 26k+lbs, with air brakes with one trailer. If you dont have air brakes, and stay off the highways that have scales, or lots of bears running around, and under 26k, you might be ok,, but, you are not in Indiana!! I agree with tagging the vehicle as an RV,,, Most pullers who buy those big fancy rigs to haul their tractors get away with it, never been close up to those trucks to know why that is,,, if it has air brakes, shouldnt it require CDL's? ChadS

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