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Hauling out of Canada

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Keith-OR

01-04-2006 21:23:44




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Ok, what does one have to know and do to bring a Farmall out of Canada.

Do's and Don'ts. What all must I take with me as far a papers. Hope you don't say Birth certificate, cause I do not have one, never did. All records destroyed in fire when Custer,SD court house burnt. I do have letter from midwife of my birth and DD214 discharge Papers. Thanks

Keith & Shawn




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popcorn

01-05-2006 16:31:10




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 Re: Hauling out of Canada in reply to Keith-OR, 01-04-2006 21:23:44  
Dont give the line inspectors a chance to ask for anything.Have everything ready,,2 picture id,and any other documentation,,hand it over and they will most likely wave you on.Been there and done that many times.



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Farmallkid From Ont,

01-05-2006 10:48:51




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 Re: Hauling out of Canada in reply to Keith-OR, 01-04-2006 21:23:44  
I have bin over with my uncle truckin beets to Croswell mich, the US customs guy joked if i was taking over the wheel at any time, i said no sir, he said have a good ride. Than comin back we had more trouble comin into our own country. Mabye it was that it was a lady guard tryin to prove a point. where abouts into canada are you coming?



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Keith-OR

01-05-2006 16:29:49




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 Re: Hauling out of Canada in reply to Farmallkid From Ont,, 01-05-2006 10:48:51  
Farmallkid, About 70 miles into eastern BC.

Keith



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Tramway Guy

01-05-2006 10:45:26




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 Re: Hauling out of Canada in reply to Keith-OR, 01-04-2006 21:23:44  
An passport (even if expired!) is much better than any other documentation when entering the U.S.



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dennis in or

01-05-2006 08:07:12




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 Re: Hauling out of Canada in reply to Keith-OR, 01-04-2006 21:23:44  
keith what ya going to get? - parts SC?



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Keith-OR

01-05-2006 16:37:24




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 Re: Hauling out of Canada in reply to dennis in or , 01-05-2006 08:07:12  
Yeppers Dennis, parts tractor. and that is all it is, really stripped down, but has some stuff Shawn needs for his.:>)

But haven't really made a final commitment Yet.

Got to cover all bases, see what all it take to make the journey.

Keith & Shawn



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Keith Shawn

01-05-2006 06:51:29




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 Re: Hauling out of Canada in reply to Keith-OR, 01-04-2006 21:23:44  
Thanks everyone for the valuable info, Wanted to get all our ducks in a row before we head that way.

Hopefully (parts) tractor will still have the ID tag on it.

Will make sure everything is current and all brakes are working properly.

again thanks

Keith & Shawn



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Bob M

01-05-2006 06:24:08




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 Re: Hauling out of Canada in reply to Keith-OR, 01-04-2006 21:23:44  
I travel back and forth between NY and Ontario fairly regularly. Here’s a few tips for US citizens that will insure smooth passage thru Customs.

Entering Canada:

1 – When asked your destination in Canada, be VERY specific (name the town). Likewise be specific about your reason for traveling and how long you plan to be in Canada.

2 – Make sure your vehicle and trailer registration/inspection stickers are current, and that all license plates are clearly visible.

3 – If you have guns or a radar detector, leave ‘em at home!

Returning into the US:

1 – Have your photo ID (valid driver’s license) out of your wallet and ready to present to the inspector. (If you have a valid passport good idea to bring it with you, though I’ve never been asked to present one.) This applies to any adult passengers too. If you have minors on board, be ready to explain who they are and their relationship to you. Keep in mind also the inspector will have run your vehicle’s registration prior to your arrival the front of the line booth. He/she will already know plenty about the registered owner BEFORE you arrive!

2 – Again be specific when asked what your reason for visiting, how long you were in Canada and what you purchased/are bringing back to the US.

3 – While I’ve never brought in a tractor I have brought in boats, engines, etc purchased in Canada. A bill of sale describing the tractor (including serial numbers if they can be found) will expedite your passage through US Customs.

4 – Be respectful. Answer questions briefly and honestly. If you are wearing dark glasses, take ‘em off and look the inspector in the eye. Above all DO NOT kid or joke with the inspectors!

Good luck!

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Hugh MacKay

01-05-2006 08:00:16




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 Re: Hauling out of Canada in reply to Bob M, 01-05-2006 06:24:08  
Bob: Very good advice, if folks can do all the items you listed, going through customs either way is a breeze.

In my earlier post on this thread I refered to my twice weekly crossngs. Those are commercial crossings and handled somewhat differently than non commercial traffic. If I were buying a single item over $500. either direction, I would consult with my home customs before leaving home. Tell them your intentions, when and where you intend to cross comming home. Don't be concerned with customs of the country your leaving with an item. Both countries really only concern themselves with inbound items. Bringing in an item such as a tractor can be considered a commercial crossing. Both countries now have systems in place allowing you to fax ahead what your coming with, copies of your invoice and your expected time of arrival. These just about eliminate any holdups providing your paper work is in order. Your home customs can advise you what options are available.

As you know I do ocasionally cross non commercial, most times with old tractor parts valued under $100. The day we visited with you folks last summer, I did have a plow lever on board, bought in Dunkirk NY. I told the Canadian Customs Officer of the plow lever under the truck cap. She never asked for the invoice, looked through the plexiglass side window of cap. She then proceeded to tell me if I didn't hurry I'd miss July 1st festivities home in Canada. It was 6 pm on July 1st. She further advised me that I was going the wrong way on the wrong day, " Most folks near the border celebrate both parties, July 1st in Canada and July 4th in the US." I told her I would try and correct that next year.

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El Toro

01-05-2006 09:03:46




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 Re: Hauling out of Canada in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-05-2006 08:00:16  
Hi Hugh, A lot of things have changes since 9/11,
I worked at the Aberdeen Proving Ground for over 40 years and that didn't include my Army time. I was there shortly after the Korean War started and
they just had MP's on the gate. If you had a sticker they just waved you through. Sometime later the MP's were removed until the 1991 war in Iraq started and they had armed guards on duty as you entered the post. Since 9/11 they have barricades so you need to zigzag before approaching the gates. You need a picture ID usually a driver's license or a government ID card from APG. They have 3 armed civilian guards
at each gate and now only have 2 gates open.

At the Army Chemical Center know as Edgewood Arsenal that's part of APG now, started searching
cars back in the early 80's when all those Marines were killed in Lebanon. They did a complete search every day. This was in a resticted area and if you left for any reason during the day and came back you were still searched. I haven't been in there for a long time so it's probably worse now. Hal

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Tedd

01-05-2006 05:19:15




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 Re: Hauling out of Canada in reply to Keith-OR, 01-04-2006 21:23:44  
The boarder crossing is not a problem. I live in western NY and do it occasionally; most recently during Christmas. The customs people are well organized and professional show them no attitude. My brother and I have purchased 2 Farmalls in the last couple of years and border crossing is easy especially if the tractor was made in the US-- no duty. If the tractor has a serial number plate (I would hope it would) it will say USA.

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Mel in OR

01-04-2006 23:17:30




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 Re: Hauling out of Canada in reply to Keith-OR, 01-04-2006 21:23:44  
Keith,
My experience is that it would be best to have a passport when returning back into the States. They don"t have much of a sense of humor about this these days, especially when flying. Could be different driving but better check throughly before going.
Mel



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Hugh MacKay

01-05-2006 03:25:40




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 Re: Hauling out of Canada in reply to Mel in OR, 01-04-2006 23:17:30  
Mel: I am Canadian, and I cross by ground transportation twice weekly. My experience has been very good going both ways. If anything I've had Canadian Customs scrutinize my ID more closely than US. I also have run across many Americans who will tell you much the same, only in their case it is US Customs being difficult.

I have been asked for Photo ID both ways as well as Birth Certificate. Photo ID probably 10% of the time and Birth Certificate a fraction on that. Even when they look at Birth Certificate, Photo ID is still a must. No question though passports are coming and will be necessary. I can see air travel already demanding this.

The other thing one must remember is when you cross as often as I do these guys start to recognize you, they maybe can't put a name on you, until they see the ID. The key to crossing is know exactly where you are going when asked. No humming and hawing, even a hesitation can cause you to produce your Photo ID.

I have witnessed some people being aprehended at the border and the fashion in which it was done, I'm convinced both Canadian and US customs have the technology to know who is approaching when they are yet some miles away.

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Wardner

01-04-2006 21:53:40




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 Re: Hauling out of Canada in reply to Keith-OR, 01-04-2006 21:23:44  
My experience is not current but I bought a 650 in Guelph, ONT about 7 seven years ago. I gave the customs agent, who was in the booth at the Niagra crossing, the bill of sale and my license. I was cleared in about 10 seconds and on my way.

The following year I bought about a dozen wheel weights and was told to pull over. It took about half an hour to get through.

I paid no duty either time.

There is some concern about the manufacturered item origin. If the item was made in the US, there is no hassle.

I suspect that since 911 things are different. You could get the complete scoop from the US Customs website.

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