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TN1066

01-04-2006 14:49:33

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My 1066 needs one cast wheel center. It currently has the wedge-lock hubs on it. I've seen a lot of them with the clamp style on them also. I have access to a set of clamp style but have always heard that the wedge-locks are the way to go. Are they that much better or are the clamps OK if kept good and tight? Thanks.

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Darald@Az

01-04-2006 19:30:29

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Re: 1066 wheel hubs in reply to TN1066, 01-04-2006 14:49:33

Bought a 706 Wheatland diesel new and had hub problems when plling a diskall, carried a set of bolts in the tool box. Two years ago I bought a 806 that had broken bolts, would not move, sold cheap, put on the 986 duals when I got it home, anyone know how many ponies those steel wheels will pull. DM

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1066 hi gear

01-04-2006 16:24:23

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Re: 1066 wheel hubs in reply to TN1066, 01-04-2006 14:49:33

I pull a 1066 with 985 h.p. 640 cu.in. and we run 2 teeth over road gear with clamp on stock cast centers. You keep them tight you will not have any problem. They will take anything you give them, Just Keep Them Tight. That is what everyone forgets to check after plowing a 200 acres.

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Lumpy

01-04-2006 16:56:51

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Re: 1066 wheel hubs in reply to 1066 hi gear, 01-04-2006 16:24:23

What tractor pulling organization do you belong to? Just curious. 640 cubes is the max on the RED motors.

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road gear 1066

01-04-2006 18:12:11

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Re: 1066 wheel hubs in reply to Lumpy, 01-04-2006 16:56:51

Illinois hot farm assocaiation

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the tractor vet

01-04-2006 16:42:16

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Re: 1066 wheel hubs in reply to 1066 hi gear, 01-04-2006 16:24:23

Well then i guess that my old junky 806 must be putting out a wee bit more as i can pop the FACTORY BOLTS on my old 806 in first high while pullen the 4x16's and my one friend has scraped out both wheels with the clamps on a 886 . That is why they went to the wedge loc's on the newer higher HP tractors . I even carry two spare wheel bolts in the tool box and i do get mine tight enough . And also if that is all your getting out of that 640 ya better go back to the drawen board .

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Hugh MacKay

01-04-2006 19:03:59

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Re: 1066 wheel hubs in reply to the tractor vet, 01-04-2006 16:42:16

Well Vet, he is kind of full of himself. Himself being that pile behind the barn.

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the tractor vet

01-04-2006 19:18:52

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Re: 1066 wheel hubs in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-04-2006 19:03:59

Ah what the heck i don't know nothing i only fix them and i must have been lucky over the years as not o have but only one comeback since i started twisten wrenchs way back many moons ago in 1962 and that one was not my fault it was the fuel supplier on that one 706 and that was backed up with the lab report . And it is like this if i don't know something i will find someone that does as ya can't know everything that is why i spec.in I H's yea i can fix the other colors but i don't know them like the I H's just like the old Fords and MoPAR's i did make them go but that is history .

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1066 hi gear

01-04-2006 18:07:22

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Re: 1066 wheel hubs in reply to the tractor vet, 01-04-2006 16:42:16

They call you the tractor vet what a laugh that is. Learn how to tighten somthing up and you won't break it. As for telling me to go to the drawing board. You have not a clue what we are even allowed for pumps or turbos or anything. Yes a 640 can make 2000 hp but with a 15 mill rotary tell me you would make more than that. If I could run a worked over P Pump and a ht 60 yes then I would be in the 2000 range. Quit acting like a college educated know it all if you don't know what the hell you are talking about, don't respond to my posts. I posted a truthful remark on my own experience as I have been pulling for 13 years and point champion in hotfarm in 96,99,00, 02,03. And I have never once broke a clamp, and let me tell you I have twisted off 3 big input shafts in the last 13 years, don't ya think I would tear the keyway out before doing that. I don't like know it alls. I know damn well if these wheels are kept tight you won't break them. I never broke one yet.

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the tractor vet

01-04-2006 19:07:50

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Re: 1066 wheel hubs in reply to 1066 hi gear, 01-04-2006 18:07:22

Well Sonny i have been twisten wrench for a lot of years and i know how to toqure a bolt and i have had my fifteen min of fame over the years and i know what works and what does not as far as waisten my money on super farm stock or even the antique hot farm anymore for the braggen wright at the coffee shop or on the drag strip them days are long over with and just because you think that this gives you more or less knolage then i have when it comes to a working tractor and what breaks and what does not you need to spend more time working on them . and when dear old Jerry designed the 1066 if he felt that the bolts would hold then they sure would have kept running them but since the 56 seires they started having problems with the tractors over the 100 Hp. range and needed to do something before someone got hurt . Now like i said i have broken the ones on my 806 and my buddy has broken them on his 886 now this is fact as a bolt will only hold somuch now if they did not break then why does the I H dealer stock them . If it is a part that does not sell then they don't stock it but they ALWAY HAVE THEM ON HAND SO THEY DO BREAK . As far as you input well maybe since it is a special made shaft well then just maybe that the shaft is defective or maybe you did not get it installed correcly . When i was playen the lets go fast thing beleive me i made my share of spair parts. Ever see what happens when a Shiffer dual dic come unglued at 8 grand Not pretty it even came thru the scatter sheild cut the steering shaft removed the master cylinder broke the back of the block ya it almost killed me . So it is like this i spent 19 years working on I H tractors and i give my knolage to guys FOR FREE and it is GOOD SOUND ADVICE and if you are running the cast wheels in the super farm class that is a hand gernad with the pin ready to fall out and i realy don't want to even be at a pull that you are pullen in .

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jms1066

01-04-2006 20:10:43

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Re: 1066 wheel hubs in reply to the tractor vet , 01-04-2006 19:07:50

cant we all get along

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Hugh MacKay

01-05-2006 02:38:58

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Re: 1066 wheel hubs in reply to jms1066, 01-04-2006 20:10:43

jms: Good advice, but I think you are directing it at the wrong person. I been reading tractor vets posts since coming to YT. Have really never seen him give poor advice to anyone. As a farmer I can tell you he is the kind guy you like to have living nearby.

This other guy high gear or road gear which ever he is, I had never heard tell of before. The vet merely suggested he should be able to get more hp from his tractor. The guy already knew this, then proceeded to launch a very vicious attack on the vet. Uncalled for in my opinion. He owes the vet one great big appology.

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fellow reader

01-07-2006 20:27:19

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Re: 1066 wheel hubs in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-05-2006 02:38:58

Oh christ quit kissing butt Hugh. It is kinda sickening ya know. You know darn well sometimes the vet needs to be mellowed out. He DOES NOT know everything about IHs That was proved by road gear or what ever. Quiet down all of ya good night.

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Hugh MacKay

01-08-2006 03:16:47

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Re: 1066 wheel hubs in reply to fellow reader, 01-07-2006 20:27:19

I called a spade a spade, as I have always done. If you find that amusing, all I can say is,"It takes small things to amuse small minds."

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Fellow reader

01-08-2006 18:40:35

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Re: 1066 wheel hubs in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-08-2006 03:16:47

Damit hugh quiet down. Damn you might be as simple minded as the vet after all. Knock it off.

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Hugh MacKay

01-08-2006 18:58:53

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Re: 1066 wheel hubs in reply to Fellow reader, 01-08-2006 18:40:35

As I see it the simple minded are the folks that don't have the intestinal fortitude to use their own name or a regular handle.

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Fellow reader

01-09-2006 19:08:41

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Re: 1066 wheel hubs in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-08-2006 18:58:53

Damit hughber use some words that I can understand. You must have that worthless college education. Ones like myself, we just had good jobs out of high school. You must of had that fast food job that the college boys end up with. You sound like a moron to me. Shut up go lay by your dish. I don't want to hear another word, I did nothing to you.

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Hugh MacKay

01-04-2006 19:20:52

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Re: 1066 wheel hubs in reply to the tractor vet , 01-04-2006 19:07:50

Vet: He's not worth your time and effort. He can't even figure out whether he is road gear or high gear. Save yor keyboard.

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Hugh MacKay

01-04-2006 16:40:30

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Re: 1066 wheel hubs in reply to 1066 hi gear, 01-04-2006 16:24:23

Just kind of curious, how many hours per year do you clock on tractor pulls? Tractor pulling is not farming, I don't care how many pony's you have under the hood. When was the last time you got side draft, pulling?

Our experience is clamps will not stand in the field with horse power in excess of 90. And yes, tight, I do know what that is. Wedge locks will take the punishment.

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road gear 10

01-04-2006 18:11:10

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Re: 1066 wheel hubs in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-04-2006 16:40:30

Yes I thought about it and yes side draft would probably have more strain than straight line

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Hugh MacKay

01-04-2006 15:27:01

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Re: 1066 wheel hubs in reply to TN1066, 01-04-2006 14:49:33

TN 1066: Around these parts, 856s all have wedge lock wheels. Clamps just wouldn't take it.

I agree with the vet try new wedges, it may surprise you. Remember also those wedges have to be tightened to 600 foot lbs. Caring for wedge locks is another case of going by the book. They were and are close to perfect.

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Allan in NE

01-04-2006 15:03:26

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Re: 1066 wheel hubs in reply to TN1066, 01-04-2006 14:49:33

TN,

I think it is a horsepower/load/torque thing.

Big boys tell me that they need the wedge type if you're gonna pull it really, really hard.

Otherwise, the clamp types should work just fine.

Allan

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the tractor vet

01-04-2006 15:00:46

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Re: 1066 wheel hubs in reply to TN1066, 01-04-2006 14:49:33

The wedge loc is far better then the clamp style as they will take more pony power the clam style will break when you get much over a 100 hp and put them under a strain , have you tryed installing a new wedge as this sometimes will solve the loose wheel problem.

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TN1066

01-04-2006 15:38:34

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Re: 1066 wheel hubs in reply to the tractor vet, 01-04-2006 15:00:46

I guess I should have said before but on one side, someone evidently has run it loose and sheared the keys out of the hub and it looks like they just put the pieces back in. I don't plan on pulling it really hard but do plan on some farm stock pulling. I've just not had any experience with the clamps on the bigger tractors. I had no idea that the wedges torqued that high. Thanks for your help. I may need to look for a replacement wedge lock hub for that one side.

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the tractor vet

01-04-2006 16:44:23

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Re: 1066 wheel hubs in reply to TN1066, 01-04-2006 15:38:34

If the keyway is scraped out then you will have to find a new wheel and new wedge loc.

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TN1066

01-05-2006 10:38:04

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Re: 1066 wheel hubs in reply to the tractor vet, 01-04-2006 16:44:23

Thanks for the replies. I think since I do have one good wedge wheel, I'll get another since they seem to be the better choice anyway.

One another subject: Anyone have a 66 series tractor for parts? I'm needing a good set of fenders and a few other things. My email is open. Thanks

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