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IH 460 Gas ~ Engine Oil Capacity

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skwhrle

12-28-2005 05:28:25




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Can anyone tell me approximately how many quarts of engine oil this tractor takes? I am a usually JD man but bought this on a farm deal and don't know much about it.

It also needs brakes...just like any IH tractor does...

Please email me replys. Thanks!




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captaink

12-28-2005 07:47:56




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 Re: IH 460 Gas ~ Engine Oil Capacity in reply to skwhrle, 12-28-2005 05:28:25  
skwhrle,

What are the issues with the breaks? Those are disc brakes and sometimes the actuator plates and the balls between them get gummed up or rusty. This makes them either hard to apply or grabby and tend to lock up. The fiber discs and also wear to a point where they are thin enough to cause the balls to mvoe beyond the travel groove, causing them to lock up also...

If you have questions, post some more details here and someone will get back to you.

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skwhrle

12-28-2005 08:14:20




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 Re: IH 460 Gas ~ Engine Oil Capacity in reply to captaink, 12-28-2005 07:47:56  
Captaink,

I only have about 50% of the left side brake and none of the right side.

I haven"t taken any time yet to see what is actually wrong with them "cuz I"ve only "been around" JD tractors. Any feed back on what to look for and what to do will be greatly appreciated.

Also, I need to change the Hydraulic oil badly....I hooked the hydraulic svcs up yesterday and the hyd oil looks watered and mucky. How many quarts of Hyd Oil does it need and where is the filter??

I changed the plugs, cap, rotor, points, sediment bowl cleaned, put new gas in it, cranked it up and it purrs like a kitten now. I was surprised to see that it only has 6854 hours on the original & working tach. No 3-point hitch just standard swinging drawbar.

I feel kinda ackward sitting on something "red" but I feel the price was very right when I bought it.

Thanks in advance for the replys.
Kurt

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K.B.-826

12-28-2005 11:23:35




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 Re: IH 460 Gas ~ Engine Oil Capacity in reply to skwhrle, 12-28-2005 08:14:20  
Kurt, I believe it holds 16 gallons of hyd. oil. Check plug is on the left side of the transmission case, fill through the opening covered by a small plate next to the shift lever base. Engine holds 9 quarts of low-ash oil. I can't stress enough how important it is to use low-ash oil in IH's 6-cylinder gas tractor engines. They are designed to allow oil to run down the valve stems, through the guides, and into the cylinders. Regular oil will cause the plugs to foul and will leave deposits on the valves which will prevent heat transfer, causing burned valves. Low-ash oil is avalible at your local Case-IH dealer, and most good farm oil suppliers should have a low-ash oil.

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skwhrle

12-29-2005 04:08:15




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 Re: IH 460 Gas ~ Engine Oil Capacity in reply to K.B.-826, 12-28-2005 11:23:35  
I want to thank you for your replys. I am going to start working on the 460 Friday to get it ready before the new year.

Happy New Year to all!

~Kurt



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captaink

12-28-2005 09:05:52




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 Re: IH 460 Gas ~ Engine Oil Capacity in reply to skwhrle, 12-28-2005 08:14:20  
I can’t tell you how much oil, but someone else here probably will. The filter is located mid-tractor on the right hand side (when looking forward from behind the tractor) behind a oblong hexagon cover with six 3/8" bolts.

As far as the brakes, there is an adjustment on each brake. On the right brake, it is a ball/nut looking affair that is located on the brake pedal arm just above the pivot shaft. Once located, you can try to tighten it (turn clockwise) and this will remove free travel from the brake pedal. On the left one there is a short stub on the left side by the clutch pedal that works the same way as the right one.

The brakes consist of two fiber disks that are spleen fit to the bull pinion shaft. The inside one goes between the actuator (more on this later) and the rear end case. The outside one goes between the actuator and the outside brake casting (the part that the adjuster goes into and can be unbolted from the rear end. The actuator consists of two plates that have tapered grooves where balls roll in. As the brake pedal is moved, the two plates rotate in such a way that the balls move in the tapered groves, forcing the plates apart and putting pressure on each of the fiber discs.

Things that can happen to the brakes are: those tapered groves and/or balls get brake residue, rust and other muck (possibly oil from the trans if the seal on the bull pinion shaft is leaking) on them causing the action to get “jumpy” causing grabby brakes, if it’s bad enough, maybe even no brakes. The fiber disks can get worn too thin, and then you run out of adjustment and no brakes. I have even seen it where the actuator disks, transmission housing, and brake cover all wear a little bit adding up to enough that even with new disks you won’t have brakes for long. To cure this I have had the outside brake cover cut down by a machine shop similar to how an engine flywheel is resurfaced. This corrected a lot of my problems, but you need to figure out how much to cut off (if you have a dial indicator, use it to measure the wear on all the pieces and add it up and take that off the brake housing. Don’t get carried away, you can always take off more later if you don’t get enough the first time.

The brakes are not that complicated but can be a pain in the butt to put back together, I usually knock out the plug in the middle of the outside housing (looks kind of like a front wheel bearing cap) to help me see when things get lined up on the bull pinion shaft correctly.

Good luck, post if you have more questions…

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Tim Shaw

12-28-2005 06:32:13




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 Re: IH 460 Gas ~ Engine Oil Capacity in reply to skwhrle, 12-28-2005 05:28:25  
9 quarts



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