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speed sleeve for an h axle

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tn terry t

12-24-2005 21:17:04




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boy ole boy things just seem to get worse as o go along with this ole h project knew it had some slop in the axle but boy i sure didnt expect three groves wore where the axle seal is anybody got a number for a speed sleeve? or would you try to tig it up and turn it back down you guys have saved my bacon more than once here one more time please terry t




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Jim J

12-25-2005 20:08:21




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 Re: speed sleeve for an h axle in reply to tn terry t, 12-24-2005 21:17:04  
I have a used axle that I will sell for $25.00 plus shipping



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Haas

12-25-2005 18:11:28




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 Re: speed sleeve for an h axle in reply to tn terry t, 12-24-2005 21:17:04  
I've used the speedy sleeves a couple of times with very good results. However, I wonder about being able to slide one all the way over the axle of an H up to where it needs to be. You sure are going to have to clean that axle up all the way, getting every nick smooth and then make yourself a tool to install the sleeve, as the one that comes with the Speedy Sleeve is very short, intended for use on the end of a shaft. I used a piece of PVC pipe for the one I put on a C main steering shaft, but that was a short distance compared to an H axle. I have also always put the shaft in the freezer to shrink it to make installation easier. You'll need a good sized freezer for the H axle. If you can get the sleeve on there though it will do a good job for you. Be sure to give us a report if you do this, as I'm very curious to know if you can slip one of those sleeves on that far.

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tn terry t

12-25-2005 07:28:50




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 Re: speed sleeve for an h axle in reply to tn terry t, 12-24-2005 21:17:04  
thanks guys just got through reading all archives on the subject took about hour and a half i think i will take it to work with me we have a motion ind rep there about twice a week and see what he can do with it riverbend i have looked at online sites and seems that the photos of axles seem to be worn too you can see the grooves in them too. there are no salvage yards that i know of within a hundred miles of me . hey thanks !everyone for the help

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Michael Soldan

12-25-2005 07:26:36




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 Re: speed sleeve for an h axle in reply to tn terry t, 12-24-2005 21:17:04  
TN Terry, you have two positions that the guys have offered and each has its own merit. Another axle is a sure fix, a seal placed where there is no groove may work..which is the easiest...a seal isn't expensive and not a lot of work on an H, I changed both sides on a Saturday morning. If you are willing to gamble that it might work you won't be at a great loss if it doesn't..then you can tackle an axle swap...one thing I will say is that my Case I-H dealer told me to install the seal where there is no groove and unlike the original felt(wide and Thick) seal the new seal is very thin in comparison, but don't let that fool you, new technology seal will outlast the tractor. Now the new thin seal can be positioned anywhere that the old seal has not cut a groove and still give you a good seal. In addition I'm thinking that a used axle will most likely have some seal wear on it as well. You may be further ahead to try the new seal. I know that lots of guys say there is room for two thin seals but I am of the opinion that one new seal is all that is required. I always use one seal in all applications on both of the H's I did and I did virtually every seal from the torque tube back including PTO. I have not had one leak or one failure using a single new seal. I have also had to do the drive shaft seals..the advice that others gave is good, think about it, you may get a smooth replacement axle or you may find something you already have...I'd try the new seal first..good luck and best wishes in the coming year...Mike in Exeter Ontario

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CNKS

12-25-2005 07:17:08




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 Re: speed sleeve for an h axle in reply to tn terry t, 12-24-2005 21:17:04  
There really isn't a number. Measure it accurately, or better, take it to a place that specializes in bearings and have them measure it. They will have or be able to get the right size. Should last for years in that low speed application.



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El Toro

12-25-2005 06:51:10




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 Re: speed sleeve for an h axle in reply to tn terry t, 12-24-2005 21:17:04  
I would agree with riverbend too on finding another axle. Here's a website for salvageyards. Hal


http://www.epartdirect.com/index.php?t=fc&s=s



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riverbend

12-25-2005 06:02:54




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 Re: speed sleeve for an h axle in reply to tn terry t, 12-24-2005 21:17:04  
H hulks should be pretty common in the salvage yards. I'd try for a decent used axle.



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RN

12-24-2005 23:23:16




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 Re: speed sleeve for an h axle in reply to tn terry t, 12-24-2005 21:17:04  
Check new seals- new seal thinner than original Chicago Rawhide #, offset slightly so it doesn't ride in original grooves. previous postings say use 2 new seals- 1st one installed backwards with lip to inside of groove and the outer seal will be outer lip outside of groove. Grease well and pack grease between seals. worth a try if you have old seal to compare. RN



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