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Leaking Super M

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Retcol

12-19-2005 05:28:16




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I just bought a Super M that has a leak from the area under the tractor which I assume is the hydraulic sytem. I don't know a lot about the mechanical operation of a tractor. Is this a common area for leaks on a Super M? How do I fix this leak or what do I check?




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Bob M

12-19-2005 06:10:40




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 Re: Leaking Super M in reply to Retcol, 12-19-2005 05:28:16  
Leak could be from any of (3) possible sources. So you need to figure out exactly WHAT is leaking. Possible sources:

1 – Rear main seal in the engine - will leak crankcase oil.

2 – If the tractor has belly pump hydraulics, the hydraulic pump input shaft seal could be leaking. The leak will be hydraulic fluid (is thinner than crankcase oil and more or less clear in color.) Note: If your Super M has live hydraulics (the hyd pump is on the right front side of the engine) it cannot leak hydraulic fluid from beneath the tractor!

3 – Transmission front seals (input shaft and/or hydraulic pump drive shaft seals). These will leak heavy transmission lubricant.

Also you can remove the dust cover from the underside ahead of the transmission, shine a light up there and probably see the source of the leak.

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FWIW #1 is most difficult to correct – requires splitting the tractor. #2 and #3 however are relatively straightforward. These require only minor disassembly (removal of the hydraulic pump, tranny input shaft, etc) to get at.

My experience is #3 - transmission shaft seals - is the most common source of leaks – and fortunately also the easiest (and cheapest) to correct.

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Craig T

12-30-2005 18:37:17




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 Re: Leaking Super M in reply to Bob M, 12-19-2005 06:10:40  
Bob, I have a Farmall H that also has a leaking seal coming from the transmission that drives the Lift-all. I am wondering if a H is like a M to get those seals out. In the shaft that drives the pump there are 2 cotter pins, do I have to remove both of them? Also, I see two shafts that run from the transmission forward. Does the top one have anything to do with the Lift-all pump? If it does how do I get it disconnected? Thanks, Craig

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Craig T

12-30-2005 19:31:27




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 Re: Leaking Super M in reply to Craig T, 12-30-2005 18:37:17  
I forgot to ask if those seals from the transmission can be replaced without dropping the pump. When I took off the access plate underneath I found a piece of seal. If neccessary, can I replace the seals from the top shaft without much trouble.

P.S. I need a reply quick I have to go back to school on Tuesday and my dad wants the floor space to get equipment ready for spring.



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Craig T

12-30-2005 19:23:39




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 Re: Leaking Super M in reply to Craig T, 12-30-2005 18:37:17  
I forgot to ask if those seals from the transmission can be replaced without dropping the pump. When I took off the access plate underneath I found a piece of seal. If neccessary, can I replace the seals from the top shaft without much trouble.

P.S. I need a reply quick, I'm only 15 and I have to go back to school on Tuesday.



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RustyFarmall

12-19-2005 05:58:22




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 Re: Leaking Super M in reply to Retcol, 12-19-2005 05:28:16  
It is very common for any M or H to leak from that area. The engine rear main oil seal could be leaking, or the transmission input shaft seal, or the transmission countershaft seal, and if the tractor is equipped with a hydraulic belly pump, there are several spots on it that could be leaking. There should be an inspection cover underneath the tractor, remove this cover and take a look up in there, might need a flashlight to see it good. Once you have determined where the drips are coming from, then we can help you with the repair. Also, a complete set of manuals will be worth their weight in gold.

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