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winter starting a Hydro 86

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Nebraska Cowman

12-08-2005 15:45:48




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Seems like any time it gets colder than about 10 below it won't start. I left a magnetic heater on the transmission housing tonight in hopes that might help. Besides moving to a warmer clime, anybody have any good ideas?




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T_Bone

12-08-2005 22:45:17




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 Re: winter starting a Hydro 86 in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 12-08-2005 15:45:48  
Hi NC,

Have you checked the injector timing? If it's with-in spec's, try increasing the timing a couple degrees.

I've never tried this on that pictular engine but have used this on other diesels with good results.

T_Bone



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Nebraska Cowman

12-08-2005 17:02:02




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 Re: winter starting a Hydro 86 in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 12-08-2005 15:45:48  
Nope, it's the 312 but maybe they ain't no better.



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Allan in NE

12-09-2005 05:06:33




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 Re: winter starting a Hydro 86 in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 12-08-2005 17:02:02  
Boy, I dunno Howard,

Sounds to me like you have all the classic symptoms of an engine that is gettin' a little low on wind.

Even at -25, that thing ought to pop after an hour or so on the heater.

I saw one in at the red shop that had the same problems as yours. After they opened it up, every sleeve/piston in it was scored. They told me it was caused from deacceleration with a cold engine during cold temps.

Hope not,

Allan

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K.B.-826

12-08-2005 19:55:06




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 Re: winter starting a Hydro 86 in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 12-08-2005 17:02:02  
312's should start much better than 310's. Still, a big tank heater will do much better than the freeze plug heater. It would also be a good idea to get your injectors checked out some time soon. A fresh set of injectors is the easiest way to improve cold starting and all-around performance of a diesel.



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K.B.-826

12-08-2005 16:07:47




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 Re: winter starting a Hydro 86 in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 12-08-2005 15:45:48  
310 diesel? If so, good luck. Best thing besides an overhaul with the late-style pistons would be the highest wattage tank heater you can find. Freeze plug heaters don't do enough for that engine when it's below zero.



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Allan in NE

12-08-2005 16:24:20




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 Re: winter starting a Hydro 86 in reply to K.B.-826, 12-08-2005 16:07:47  
Yep,

I'm just a dumb cowboy, but I agree with that.

My 310 bellyaches to high heaven if it is 40 out. Nature of the beast, I'm told.

Allan



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steveormary

12-08-2005 21:51:56




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 Re: winter starting a Hydro 86 in reply to Allan in NE, 12-08-2005 16:24:20  
I had an external tank heater (1000w)for my 706 german. 310. Used a timer with it. They sure start easier when warmed up a little.

steveormary



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