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H 4th5th Gear #'s

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Mixman

12-02-2005 14:52:22




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The H used more than one 4th-5th slide gear during there production. I was wondering if someone could tell me the ser#'s to gear #'s. The # on my gear is HH-1561 86-20




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ejr-IA.

12-02-2005 17:07:59




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 Re: H 4th5th Gear #'s in reply to Mixman, 12-02-2005 14:52:22  
Where do you get this parts cd Haas?I have heard of the cd and my IH dealer knows nothing about them.



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Haas

12-03-2005 07:23:17




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 Re: H 4th5th Gear #'s in reply to ejr-IA., 12-02-2005 17:07:59  
I got it from Carter and Greunewald about 3 or 4 years ago. I don't know if still available or not. Cost when I got it was $80 as I recall. Last time I saw it advertised, it was over $100. You can check at cngco.com to see if they still have it.



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DWV

12-02-2005 17:01:16




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 Re: H 4th5th Gear #'s in reply to Mixman, 12-02-2005 14:52:22  
Yes there were some different numbers for the gear but don't think your # is one.Some aftermarket gears were made and still may be made for that gear.Or do you have a 9 speed set up? The oldest IH gear that I have out is # 56420 D There was a 7 mile 4th with 5 digit # also.



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Mixman

12-02-2005 17:06:32




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 Re: H 4th5th Gear #'s in reply to DWV, 12-02-2005 17:01:16  
There is no 9 speed



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CNKS

12-02-2005 18:10:51




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 Re: H 4th5th Gear #'s in reply to Mixman, 12-02-2005 17:06:32  
Not from the factory -- M&W and Heisler (sp?) made 9 speed attacthments.



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DWV

12-02-2005 17:09:41




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 Re: H 4th5th Gear #'s in reply to Mixman, 12-02-2005 17:06:32  
27 teeth is not stock.You got something different.



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Mixman

12-02-2005 18:20:04




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 Re: H 4th5th Gear #'s in reply to DWV, 12-02-2005 17:09:41  
27 is 4th so evidently someone has changed the counter shaft gear also. This is getting annoying.



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Haas

12-02-2005 16:49:44




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 Re: H 4th5th Gear #'s in reply to Mixman, 12-02-2005 14:52:22  
According to my parts CD, the 4/5 sliding gear for the H were 56420DA, 357946R1 which have 18 and 35 teeth and according to the CD are interchangeable. There was also a high speed 4th gear with 18 and 29 teeth used after serial numbe 86677. (Part number for the high speed gear is 62396 DA) I think (but not sure) that the high speed gear was an option and not used on all tractors. The super H uses yet another 4/5 slider gear which has 18 and 31 teeth. The gear these mesh with on the countershaft is different for all of them. I don't see the number you show anywhere. Perhaps it is worn and not readable. I just changed out one of these in a Super H. I think the gear part number was cast into the gear, but I'd have to take a look at the old one. Hard to find good used ones of any of these, as worn out teeth on the 5th gear is common.

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DWV

12-02-2005 17:15:26




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 Re: H 4th5th Gear #'s in reply to Haas, 12-02-2005 16:49:44  
Haas.do you have something that tells tooth count
for the W 4 tractors 4th gear.



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Haas

12-03-2005 07:37:10




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 Re: H 4th5th Gear #'s in reply to DWV, 12-02-2005 17:15:26  
Once had a W-4 parts book but sold it. The "standard" tractors are not on the parts CD I have. I know that the W-4 4/5th gear is different than the H because a friend had replace that gear in a W-4. He could not find one and ended up using the gears out of an H which meant replacing both the sliding gear and the counter shaft gear and maybe some others too, as the 3rd gear is different on the w-4 as well. He used parts out of an H parts tractor. I do have a parts catalog for the I-4 tractor and strangely, the 4/5 slider gear on that is listed as 22 and 34 teeth. That means the input gear is diffenent on the I-4 as well, as the spline on the input has to have 22 teeth instead of 18. Don't know why IH would have done that, but I guess they had a reason.

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Mixman

12-02-2005 17:02:29




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 Re: H 4th5th Gear #'s in reply to Haas, 12-02-2005 16:49:44  
The #'s I give are off the gear. There are 27 teeth on the outside and 18 teeth on the inside where it slides over the input. This is a 42 model tractor #108195



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Haas

12-03-2005 07:46:39




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 Re: H 4th5th Gear #'s in reply to Mixman, 12-02-2005 17:02:29  
Only thing I can figure that it is something special, either by IH or changed out later. Perhaps someone used gears from a W-4???



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