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I Need A Huge Favor! (Long)

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Allan in NE

11-20-2005 08:00:48




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Hey Fellas, me again..... ...

Problem is, on this hydro, I can only get 'bout 8 or 9 mph in forward and it seems to lack any real "pulling power".

In reverse, I've got a solid 20 mph and the darned tractor digs like a full-grown badger; can't stop the thing. Speeds according to the operator's manual are totally reversed.

Engine braking is so solid that it absolutely slides the tires.

Okay, IT manual says that this symptom is caused by the high pressure lines coming down from the Control valve being reversed or installed backwards. I think this is what I've got 'cause someone has been in this thing at one time and the lines aren't under their hold-down clamp like they should be.

Before I open this thing up, will someone who owns a small frame hydro go out and look at these lines behind the starter? Do yours "Cross" like that? First picture is the left side of the tractor and the second picture was taken from the right side.

I don't know how this control valve works, but to my mind, the reverse port should be on the right side of the valve above the battery. My reverse line on the transmission (forward-most line) hooks to the left port of the valve.

Thanks for your help,

Allan

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dave from MN

11-20-2005 09:16:47




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 I can pic mine if ya like in reply to Allan in NE, 11-20-2005 08:00:48  
I will check my oem oper manual and see what it says about your symptoms. Some one mayv have had it adjusted for a fast reverse and slow forward for whatever they were doing, thats how I set up my garden tractor for blowing snow.



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Allan in NE

11-20-2005 09:29:57




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 Re: I can pic mine if ya like in reply to dave from MN, 11-20-2005 09:16:47  
Yeah,

Maybe you could take a shot of the left side of the tractor behind that starter showing those lines?

What gets me is that this thing is acting just like the IT manual describes. I know they use different oil routes for forward oil and reverse oil to cut the speed/torque in half.

Dunno,

Allan



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dave from MN

11-20-2005 09:12:19




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 Re: I Need A Huge Favor! (Long) in reply to Allan in NE, 11-20-2005 08:00:48  
Allan, I checked my 544 and it is plumbed just as yours is. I think you have something else going on.



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ejr-IA.

11-20-2005 08:37:09




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 Re: I Need A Huge Favor! (Long) in reply to Allan in NE, 11-20-2005 08:00:48  
Just went out and looked at my daddy inlaws 656hydro looks to me they are switched. The left line out of the cowling should go to the rear port ,right line to the front port this is standing behind the tractor left right.



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Allan in NE

11-20-2005 08:46:03




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 Re: I Need A Huge Favor! (Long) in reply to ejr-IA., 11-20-2005 08:37:09  
Thanks EGR,

That's the way I read it too.

It just doesn't "look" right nor make any sense why IH would lay that one line on top of the other with a chance to rub thru.

Okay, I owe ya now. :>)

Allan



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RAW in IA

11-20-2005 08:33:44




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 Re: I Need A Huge Favor! (Long) in reply to Allan in NE, 11-20-2005 08:00:48  
It was just set up for a rear mount loader. Just turn the control paltform around, mount the loader on the rear, and you are all set! I would think one would have to be real careful with the steering at 20 mph in reverse. Could get real hairy very quick.



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Allan in NE

11-20-2005 08:40:32




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 Re: I Need A Huge Favor! (Long) in reply to RAW in IA, 11-20-2005 08:33:44  
Oh Boy! Did it ever!

Took me totally by surprise yesterday. I was a pullin' and yankin' as hard as I could to get the old heifer stopped. :>)

I've got a real steep gravel driveway here. Darned old rascal spun the tires all the way to the top like a hot rod kid in reverse; but, acted like it didn't really wanna go up there in forward. :>(

Allan



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